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Quote: Mark "Cahill out, Kelly in. I didn't mind the Henderson inclusion but come on?'"


Kelly will be a top player but even I'm a bit mystified. He's a centre back that's been playing right back so he can get some time in the first team. To bring him in as a centre back replacement seems weird, especially with a player like Rio Ferdinand sat at home. I guess the FA would rather give some of the better performing U21 players a chance.

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Micah Richards must feel a little silly now after the injury to Cahill. Fancy refusing to be put on the standby list. The Ferdinand situation is embarrassing for the whole of English soccer. Best of luck to the young lad, Kelly.

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What a shame that John Terry is fit to go to the Euros as I was hoping he'd be declared unfit so he can face trial earlier than July. Shame also that Rio Ferdinand hasn't ben called up to replace Gary Cahill because of John Terry ( the football reason ).

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In honour of Liverpool having six players in the England squad the FA have released a new England kit. A shellsuit, curly wig and moustache combo and an ankle tag.

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What on earth is going on with Hodgson? Is he picking these players because he's worked with them before perhaps? Has he coached Henderson? What about Kelly, did their paths cross when he managed Liverpool?

Utterly bizarre selections of players with no real ability to contribute in the here and now. They both have potential, but they aren't showing it at club level, so really don't deserve international selection. The time to call players like that up are international friendlies, not tournaments. It's easy to say they won't play so are just there for experience, but it wouldn't take much at all to lose a couple of defenders. A red card here and a muscle strain there.

England aren't in great shape, but it isn't that bad that we need to call up these players. The likes of Richards, Shawcross and Ferdinand are all vastly better players than Kelly. Taking it to the extreme, could anyone argue with Tony Hibbert being selected ahead of Kelly? At least Hibbert finished the season in form and can play fullback and centre back.

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In more worrying news, it seems Rodgers might be the man to turn Liverpool around. First thing he does as manager is sabotage Sigurdsson's move to Swansea and the second is to rid the club of Dirk Kuyt.

If he keeps this up, they may have a chance of making the top 4 next season.

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Kelly's a top player Saddened. Fast, strong, deceptively good cross and an aggressive defender. He'll make a class centre back eventually, whilst he's slotted in very well at right back despite it not being his natural position. As I said, he probably hasn't played enough centre half at club level to justify the selection, but he's played well for the U21s and he's never let us down.

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Quote: Dead Man Walking "What a shame that John Terry is fit to go to the Euros as I was hoping he'd be declared unfit so he can face trial earlier than July. '"


The trial date's been set. They're not going to change it now, are they? I know QP Ha Ha fans are stupid, but there's no need to push it.

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Quote: Saddened! " Taking it to the extreme, could anyone argue with Tony Hibbert being selected ahead of Kelly? At least Hibbert finished the season in form and can play fullback and centre back.'"


icon_lol.gif ..... I was just joking with my son about the chances of Hibbo getting a call up....At the present rate, he can't be far off being picked!!

On a serious note, you aren't far wrong though. The selections of Kelly and Henderson seem to indicate that Hodgson has been given the go-ahead to basically give up on this tournament (no bad thing, because, even with our best players available, we wouldn't have much of a chance).

You have to hope for Hodgson's sake though, that the press realise the reality of the situation, because this squad will struggle to get a single point from their group and you get the feeling they are waiting for the first opportunity to tear into the new boss.

This has Euro 1988 all over it and that side was far better than this present collection.

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Quote: Roddy B "Kelly's a top player Saddened. Fast, strong, deceptively good cross and an aggressive defender. He'll make a class centre back eventually, whilst he's slotted in very well at right back despite it not being his natural position. As I said, he probably hasn't played enough centre half at club level to justify the selection, but he's played well for the U21s and he's never let us down.'"


Dont confuse him with facts. It confuses his anti-liverpool bias

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Quote: Saint77777 "Dont confuse him with facts. It confuses his anti-liverpool bias'"


I'll admit I don't like Liverpool. But I can see objectively when a player is playing well. It would be hard for you or any Liverpool fan to argue the case for Carroll, Downing, Henderson or Kelly being selected for England.

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Quote: Saddened! "I'll admit I don't like Liverpool. But I can see objectively when a player is playing well. It would be hard for you or any Liverpool fan to argue the case for Carroll, Downing, Henderson or Kelly being selected for England.'"



To be fair to Kelly, when I've seen him play, he looks a good player - a bit raw and headstrong, but definitely has potential.

I guess its just a sad indictment of the English game that he is being selected about 3 or 4 years before he is actually ready for international football, but that's not the lad's fault.

The other 3 players you mention though are complete dog, who really do emphasise how desperate we are.

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Evra's a class act!

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Quote: Smiggs "Evra's a class act!'"


What's he done?

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Ha ha, just read about it now. It's nothing serious, the kind of thing you do when you are 9 and messing about with your mates.

The French seem to be taking it very seriously however.

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