Police apparently involved and pundits on 5 Live calling for the situation to be dealt with quickly, as if it is somehow of national importance.

The idea that the police / criminal justice system should somehow prioritise this case, just because football is involved, is ridiculous.

Some irony in Chelsea fans calling for Clattenburg to be sacked, whilst they still worship Terry.

I think it does need to be swiftly dealt with. The sport has had it's image dragged through the gutter by the likes of Suarez and Terry and could do without another racism case dragged out over the next 6 months. Both of those cases were kept in the limelight as everyday someone new would come out and give their opinion or express their outrage, which would then be discussed and counter argued. Football doesn't need it again. He either said those things or he didn't. Either way, deal with it this week and move on. If they are still discussing it by Saturday it's too long.

Yes, but if you're a cleaner in McDonalds and all of the staff swear their heads off at you, then all of the customers swear their heads off at you. Is it really unfair if you retaliate/make one/two bad comment/s? How is it fair to condemn a ref for discriminatory language when it's more than likely most of the players use it on the field every week? What the referee has allegedly said [iis[/i wrong, what's even worse though is the way people like yourself think it's borderline friendly to call somebody a Fat Spanish Waiter. Do you think Benitez found it funny? If he was offended by it (which I imagine he was, it's not pleasant, especially when sang with such an intent to humiliate), surely any other defence of it goes out of the window if we use your logic from the previous case with Suarez. Or is this another case of welcome to Britain, it's our rules and we'll do as we like?

The problem with the McDonalds analogy is the ref didn't swear at a customer, he swore at another player. I don't know what the FA guidelines are you speak of, but I imagine referees can be relaxed on occasions on the field and can probably let a few expletives go. The problem clearly isn't swearing, the problem is the use of the word Spanish in a discriminatory way. A player wouldn't make a complaint if the referee had said "stop being a tw*t", or "grow up you soft tw*t", it simply wouldn't happen and you know it, as the players dish out far worse every week.

The problem with the separate thinking is there shouldn't be a separate thinking when it comes to discrimination and 'racism'. We are told there should be a zero tolerance policy to it, whether it's a drunk scrub on the streets or a headmaster at a school, racism shouldn't be tolerated in any form is the message we're all forced to accept, so why should thousands of fans get away with it "because they're fans"? I understand the need to make examples of people in the limelight, they have to set the right example, but surely something isn't right if an FA won't act on thousands of fans singing FSW or your dad washes elephants, but they will possibly act on somebody saying Spanish tw*t. If they were consistent, they'd have said to the clubs that sung the chants that their fans would be banned if it carried on being sang, but they didn't, it was ignored.

If the entire Kop stand started doing monkey chants/gestures towards Evra next time we play United, will the FA condemn their behaviour, or will it be ignored because they're non-professionals? Will they fine Liverpool? Will they threaten with possible bans? What if the Kop stand sang "you're just a French African w*nker" towards him, would that be condemned or would it be seen as friendly? What if that chant became a regular occurrence at every ground? Would the FA have to act, or would they ignore like they have done with previous vile chants? You see, we expect teams in Europe to be banned if their fans don't behave, look at the reaction to the Serbian U21s as an example, yet we don't carry out similar actions when our fans use nationality to discriminate players/managers. You can't ask for a zero tolerance policy towards a referee's language but completely ignore the behaviour of thousands of fans.

I'm not saying you are wrong here, but it's a crusade to save the world you are proposing. You can't make 80,000 people behave appropriately, it's just not logistically possible. The authorities do fine clubs for their fans behaviour and chanting and get the Police to try to find the most serious culprits, but as a lot of those people are different every week and don't buy tickets in their own name, stopping them becomes impossible. It would be great if everyone could be respectful to each other, but such is the way of life.

Ref's you can do something about. They are paid to do a job and will have a code that tells them how to behave.

I've just seen it now for the first time, he definitely went down far far too easy after any contact was made.

I'm glad i wasn't the only one who saw that

Is that the same Clattenburg who was stood down for 8 months after he sent an email that could be interpreted as a threat to a business partners family?



It's impossible to say whether there was contact between Ivanovic and Young.

There was definite contact between Evans and Torres. I haven't seen it, but from what I've read Torres's sock was ripped where Evans studs hit him.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20135129 I know LFC love their stats...shame about the facts

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20135129 I know LFC love their stats...shame about the facts

The whole club seems to have some kind of mental illness over the last few years. They just don't see anything for what it is anymore. It's okay for Suarez to be a racist, he doesn't dive and should get more penalties etc. They're not going to win the league, but only because the other clubs outspend them



Now Everton play like Stoke and just hoofed long balls up against them, because we're not as good as them.



More possession, more passes, higher passing accuracy and fewer long balls. Finished above them last season and have clear daylight this season. It seems Liverpool think they are Barcelona now because they've hired Rodgers and signed Joe Allen (Who is anonymous). I think it would be hard for anyone to argue that Liverpool play better football than Everton at the moment. Some of the moves Everton are pulling off between the likes of Baines, Pienaar, Jelavic, Mirallas and Osman are fantastic and we've out passed every team we've played this season, including Manchester United and Liverpool themselves. If anything it should be Everton making the Stoke comparison of Liverpool, given they injured two Everton players with their thuggery during the game.

I'm aware of Clattenburg's history, however I think you have missed my point. With the fallout from the racism row, I said that Clattenburg would be stupid to say anything remotely racist. Just because he sent the above email (which of course is idiotic in itself), doesn't necessary mean he has racial tendencies.

I understand that you are obviously wearing your Chelsea specs and want the referee to be punished by the full extent of the law, but let's wait until the facts come out first before stringing him up. It all rests on his officials, no-one else.

I really do not understand why he has said that. I'm a Liverpool fan and even I can see that Everton didn't use long ball and outplayed us on the ground.

You said that he wouldn't be stupid enough to make a racial comment after the JT/Suarez incidents. Which means that you're the one who is judging the incident before any facts are being offered.

I am sitting back and waiting for a decent picture to emerge before making any judgements. I was just pointing out that Clattenburg has displayed massive stupidity before by possibly making a veiled threat by email.