How many sitters will Cleverley miss tonight? I will go for 3.

"If you are prepared to win at all costs, the elixir of victory is surely diluted"

rlThe Last Word

This Jen Chang thing is pretty weird / embarrassing

Bit of trouble in the u21 game.Serbians kicking off after losing and fans racially abusing England players again,not to worry as i'm sure uefa will come down hard on them....or maybe not.

This is a joke surely, didn't anyone think to close the roof?

It looked horrible. Was it televised? I saw the highlights in the build up to the England game and it looked horrible. I can't quite tell why Rose and the other England players were moving round like that though, it looked as if they were all over the pitch instead of just walking off. It all looked an unholy mess, angry England players, the odd angry Serbian chasing those with a sea of Serbian players and officials trying to peace keep. What caused it in the first place? Just the fact that they lost or was something more serious afoot? The referee's contribution seemed pretty farcical, it was like a silent movie at one stage with the camp referee chasing the posse of players chasing the black England players.

There will be some serious bans handed out over that.

Serbia v England u21

On YouTube for the end of match hassles. Looked pretty bad.

Don't think you have to be Einstein to work out what's happened there - Culturally, these Baltic and Eastern European nations are about 30 or 40 years behind Western Europe and still view black people as targets for the type of treatment that was common over here in the 70's and 80's.....It is no excuse, but its simply that they are still very, very backward in comparison with us.

Unfortunately, UEFA will find a way to 'share' the blame and try to pin some of the blame on the English, whilst telling the Serbians to slap a few wrists and try to identify a few neo-nazi nutters who they can ban for life... - The sad thing is that most of them are racist, simply by the environment they are used to living in, so banning half a dozen skinheads won't make much difference.

What should actually happen, but won't, is that these countries should receive points deductions in their World Cup qualifying groups and make it impossible for them to make it to the money making showpiece events that every country strives to be at.

If it is true, he must surely lose his job over it. It is not an acceptable way to behave for any professional, let alone such a high profile professional in such an important role. Liverpool as a club seem to have made a mess of just about everything they've done off the field in the last few years.

If it's not true, it's more than a little weird.

Chang's confirmed that he met him, but he denied making any type of a threat.

Unless there was a recording made of the conversation, there's no way that the word of a fake blogger will be enough to fire Chang over it. Chang will claim wrongful dismissal, point to the fact the bloke was an Internet wind-up merchant and say his word cannot be trusted.

Steve Wigley the assistant manager was kicking off too, and from his two spells at Hull City seems the most relaxed and calm guy in the World, so something must have really provoked him.

Serbia will get a €20000 fine, half of it suspended for 6 weeks, and Rose and Wigley will both get 2 game bans.

Clearly they have a problem with racial abuse. It needs to be dealt with, and quickly.

But there are also issues with the holier than thou attitude that overflows from the English in these matters.

Racism is ignorant, but the comments from people like Sol Campbell in the build up to Euro 2012 are just as ignorant, and only cause further problems.