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Erm, we've, erm, got them exactly where we want them.

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Still not good enough, even though England are supposedly playing a team ranked lower in the world than them!! 3 days of poor cricket from England, batting, bowling and fielding!!

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England bowled as well as they could this morning with the new ball but were really unlucky and once Hussey and Haddin got through that they grew in confidence.

England need a min 370 to set at least 150 on the last day, over to the batsment now but that 300 partnership looks to be a match winning one.

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Quote: Mike Oxlong "Still not good enough, even though England are supposedly playing a team ranked lower in the world than them!! 3 days of poor cricket from England, batting, bowling and fielding!!'"


I'm sorry, I can't agree....apart from a freakish, once-in-a-lifetime partnership from Hussey & Haddin, there is nothing between these 2 sides....In fact, I'd go as far as to say that our bowlers are better than theirs.

Even if we get beat in this test (as looks likely), I wouldn't be too down-heartened.....One thing I'd definitely love to see though is this review system getting binned.

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Quote: The Angry Pirate "I'm sorry, I can't agree....apart from a freakish, once-in-a-lifetime partnership from Hussey & Haddin, there is nothing between these 2 sides....In fact, I'd go as far as to say that our bowlers are better than theirs.

Even if we get beat in this test (as looks likely), I wouldn't be too down-heartened.....One thing I'd definitely love to see though is this review system getting binned.'"


Yeah, cos our bowlers took a hat trick didn't they, our batsmen scored 100's didn't they, the Aussie fielders dropped catches and miss-fielded as many as Englands didn't they.

Face it, England were supposed to be the better team going into this match, but 3 days in they have proved little of that. Anyone watching this match can clearly see the Aussies are still better than England, in every department, and if England get crushed in this test, it just sets it up for the usual hammering England get when they go to Australia!!

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Quote: Mike Oxlong "Yeah, cos our bowlers took a hat trick didn't they, our batsmen scored 100's didn't they, the Aussie fielders dropped catches and miss-fielded as many as Englands didn't they.

Face it, England were supposed to be the better team going into this match, but 3 days in they have proved little of that. Anyone watching this match can clearly see the Aussies are still better than England, in every department, and if England get crushed in this test, it just sets it up for the usual hammering England get when they go to Australia!!'"


I see little point in discussing this with you as you obviously know little about the game....Yes, Siddle took 6 wickets, but I'd actually suggest that Anderson has bowled twice as well as him in this test.

I'm not saying that the Aussies won't deserve to win this test, but to suggest it sets them on course to batter us again is being extremely pessimistic....As I said, take away the freakish 300+ partnership (which happen very seldom) and this game would be on a knife-edge.

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Quote: The Angry Pirate "I see little point in discussing this with you as you obviously know little about the game....Yes, Siddle took 6 wickets, but I'd actually suggest that Anderson has bowled twice as well as him in this test.'"



Post of the year.

In fact...forget that.. post of the century

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Quote: The Angry Pirate "I see little point in discussing this with you as you obviously know little about the game....Yes, Siddle took 6 wickets, but I'd actually suggest that Anderson has bowled twice as well as him in this test.

I'm not saying that the Aussies won't deserve to win this test, but to suggest it sets them on course to batter us again is being extremely pessimistic....As I said, take away the freakish 300+ partnership (which happen very seldom) and this game would be on a knife-edge.'"


I dont care if you think Anderson bowled the best spell of bowling the game has ever seen, fact of the matter is he only took 2 wickets and went for nigh on 100 runs. Looking like taking wickets and actually taking them in test match cricket is a totally different thing. The highlights might look good for Anderson, but the scorebook doesn't lie. Fact is England folded under the pressure with the bat, as usual, and their bowlers hardly looked like getting a wicket. Swann is supposed to be the number 2 bowler in the world - has he shown anything like that in this game so far? No!

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Quote: Mike Oxlong "I dont care if you think Anderson bowled the best spell of bowling the game has ever seen, fact of the matter is he only took 2 wickets and went for nigh on 100 runs. Looking like taking wickets and actually taking them in test match cricket is a totally different thing. The highlights might look good for Anderson, but the scorebook doesn't lie. Fact is England folded under the pressure with the bat, as usual, and their bowlers hardly looked like getting a wicket. Swann is supposed to be the number 2 bowler in the world - has he shown anything like that in this game so far? No!'"


Agree to disagree, Mike???......I'm guessing you are going for a 5-0 again then??....I'll stick to my 2-2.... icon_cool.gif

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Is Swan one of the many South Africans in the England side?

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Quote: Barry_McKenzie "Is Swan one of the many South Africans in the England side?'"


Barry, are you a professional nobhead??.... icon_confused.gif

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Quote: The Angry Pirate "Barry, are you a professional nobhead??....
Now that I will agree with you on, haha.

And no, I don't think 5-0 at all, I said 2-1 England or 2-2 before the series started, but if England want to achieve that, they are gonna have to improve a hell of a lot on this performance so far.

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Quote: Mike Oxlong "Now that I will agree with you on, haha.

And no, I don't think 5-0 at all, I said 2-1 England or 2-2 before the series started, but if England want to achieve that, they are gonna have to improve a hell of a lot on this performance so far.'"


I agree. I think we will improve and the point I was trying to make that apart from Hussey & Haddin, the Aussie performance hasn't been much better.

Admittedly, Siddle bowled well, but England seemed intent on giving him cheap wickets, whereas Anderson had no luck against Hussey & Haddin.

Yes, we have to improve, but this is definitely not an unbeatable Aussie team.

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Personally I feel England bowled well and very disiplined at the Australians in there First Innings. Brad Haddin and Mike Hussey but on a freak partnership that will be the highest partnership of the series.

I would like to see England show a statement of intent tonight. If we can smash 350 or so today and another 100 on the 5th morning I would like to see us declare and send the Aussies in. That pitch will be horrific to bat on the 5th day.

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Whitehaven
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Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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