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Quote: Ajw71 "Chelsea release Kalou and Bosingwa. They will make good signings for someone.'"


They would, Bosingwa certainly. They are the kind of people Moyes should be after.

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I would take the pair of them at Newcastle in an instant.

Bosingwa would be an excellent mentor for Santon, he's played at the top level for years and we could get another two or three years out of him and then the position would be there for Santon to take over. Pardew let it slip last season that Santon wasn't a long term vision for him at left back, so if we could get Bosingwa for the right and one of the rumoured left backs we've been after (along with Douglas to bolster us in the centre) we'd certainly be cooking. Plus, if Danny Simpson is stalling on a contract then sell him for a couple of million and use that to go towards covering Bosingwa's wages.

Kalou or no Kalou we need to sign some non-African attacking players for when we lose Cisse and Ba (if both still here) to the ACoN. That would leave a front three of Best, Ameobi and Ben Arfa in the hole. Shola was like bambi on ice at the best of times, but now is so slow it's unbelievable. Nothing more than a hold up man when we're trying to keep a lead. Best has proved a lot of critics wrong since he's been here, but he still isn't the sort of striker that contributes much and is never going to be a prolific scorer for us. Kalou probably on big money so that'd likely be a stumbling block. He would fit in to our formation perfectly on the left though, would also allow us to rest Cisse and put Ba up front - we're going to have to give both chance to rest otherwise with the league, domestic cups, Europe and the ACoN they'll both be knackered by February.

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Quote: sanjunien "that's why I said 'whatever it's business title is''"


Private limited liability companies are not governed by the same regulations and expectations as a plc though so it is important to make that distinction. As limited liability companies are not exposed to the stock exchange/trading their commitment to profit can be managed more easily than it can with a plc. A plc is required to produce profit which usually they are asked to maximise whereas a limited company does not have to be seen to be maximising profits in the same way. Sure, they will want to make a profit, however I would argue that they are more free to pursue their own agenda as well, which may include just being successful. It's an important distinction.

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Quote: McClennan "Private limited liability companies are not governed by the same regulations and expectations as a plc though so it is important to make that distinction. As limited liability companies are not exposed to the stock exchange/trading their commitment to profit can be managed more easily than it can with a plc. A plc is required to produce profit which usually they are asked to maximise whereas a limited company does not have to be seen to be maximising profits in the same way. Sure, they will want to make a profit, however I would argue that they are more free to pursue their own agenda as well, which may include just being successful. It's an important distinction.'"


oh I see,

so, they are not in it for the money then ? eusa_shhh.gif

just an altruistic act to make the lives of a few hundred thousand scousers happier then ? eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: Roddy B "When was the last time somebody threw a dart at you? Did you deserve it - be honest?'"


the last time I was in the pub with my missus !

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Quote: Roddy B "Not sure on these Louis van Gaal rumours. If you're to appoint somebody in a scouting/signing role, they shouldn't want to be involved in coaching, tactics etc. Picking a man who's managed throughout his career is very dodgy ground, assuming he will be signing players. The key to making any 'structure' work is transparency and people accepting their roles, is LVG really the type of person who would fit into that kind of structure? He's had a great career, but I don't think he's the right man.'"


van Gaal would fall out with himself if there was nobody else left to bicker with.

He's not a good fit for this kind of role, as he'll ruffle the feathers of those who he works for, with and above.

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Why do English clubs get involved with Director's of Football? In Europe it's different, managers at most of the clubs do absolutely nothing in terms of managing the club bar coaching on a day to day level. Transfers and even team selection is taken out of their hands.

Liverpool wanting Van Gaal as DOF just seems silly to me. The English culture is that the manager develops his squad, signs the players he wants and picks whoever he wants. The next manager of Liverpool is now basically going to have to be a complete yes man and just do whatever Van Gaal tells him to. In that case, why not just make Van Gaal the manager and give him the full jurisdiction instead of having the horrible DOF/Manager contradiction and duality of roles?

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There's no reason the sporting director/coach model can't work anywhere. There's no reason the 'English' model can't either - Felix Magath winning the league with Wolfsburg, for example. It's horses for courses innit.

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Quote: McClennan "Private limited liability companies are not governed by the same regulations and expectations as a plc though so it is important to make that distinction. As limited liability companies are not exposed to the stock exchange/trading their commitment to profit can be managed more easily than it can with a plc. A plc is required to produce profit which usually they are asked to maximise whereas a limited company does not have to be seen to be maximising profits in the same way. Sure, they will want to make a profit, however I would argue that they are more free to pursue their own agenda as well, which may include just being successful. It's an important distinction.'"

Fsg are probably under more pressure than most listed companies to make a profit because they invest the money of wealthy individuals that expect high returns. They do not invest for any other reason than to make money

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Quote: John_D "There's no reason the sporting director/coach model can't work anywhere. There's no reason the 'English' model can't either - Felix Magath winning the league with Wolfsburg, for example. It's horses for courses innit.'"


Well said. I think either model can work, but you only have to look at clubs like Udinese and Porto to see how well DoFs/'transfer gurus' can work. Like any system/structure, if you have the right people in place, it will always work well. Clubs like United and Arsenal will say they wouldn't be where they are now without their managers and their manager's signings, but then I imagine a lot of clubs in Italy/Spain would say they that the DoFs are the reason they've maintained stability despite managers leaving.

I've read a lot on DoFs and a lot of it seems to come down to a different interpretation of the role of a manager. English coaches are 'lazier', they let their coaches do more of the work, instead preferring to get involved with signing players and going to watch players abroad - they act more like DoFs themselves. In other countries, the manager is expected to be out with the players, hammering home tactics and preparing his side as best as possible, whilst a dedicated person scouts and signs players. However, it isn't as simple as it seems, they will both be in dialogue so there's an understanding about style of player wanted and so on; it's simply to maximise results from scouting, whilst maximising the performance of the manager who's spending more time with his players.

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Quote: McClennan "Private limited liability companies are not governed by the same regulations and expectations as a plc though so it is important to make that distinction. As limited liability companies are not exposed to the stock exchange/trading their commitment to profit can be managed more easily than it can with a plc. A plc is required to produce profit which usually they are asked to maximise whereas a limited company does not have to be seen to be maximising profits in the same way. Sure, they will want to make a profit, however I would argue that they are more free to pursue their own agenda as well, which may include just being successful. It's an important distinction.'"


it seems that LFC , owned by Fenway Sports Group operates under the british company UKSV Holdings Co. Ltd. which it appears, is actually a PLC after all...

www.cdrex.com/uksv-holdings-comp ... 86906.html
Quote: McClennan "Private limited liability companies are not governed by the same regulations and expectations as a plc though so it is important to make that distinction. As limited liability companies are not exposed to the stock exchange/trading their commitment to profit can be managed more easily than it can with a plc. A plc is required to produce profit which usually they are asked to maximise whereas a limited company does not have to be seen to be maximising profits in the same way. Sure, they will want to make a profit, however I would argue that they are more free to pursue their own agenda as well, which may include just being successful. It's an important distinction.'"


it seems that LFC , owned by Fenway Sports Group operates under the british company UKSV Holdings Co. Ltd. which it appears, is actually a PLC after all...

www.cdrex.com/uksv-holdings-comp ... 86906.html


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Quote: sanjunien "it seems that LFC , owned by Fenway Sports Group operates under the british company UKSV Holdings Co. Ltd. which it appears, is actually a PLC after all...


Clueless.

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Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "Clueless.'"



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Quote: sanjunien "icon_lol.gif
You clicked on icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif when you should have been clicking on icon_surprised.gifops: icon_surprised.gifops: icon_surprised.gifops: .

Not knowing the difference the difference between a private company and a PLC is like not knowing the difference between Manchester City and Manchester United.

Just STFU and go.

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Quote: sanjunien "so, they are not in it for the money then ? 3.0341796875:5
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 Sun 18th May 2025
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Warrington
17:30
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Salford
 Thu 22nd May 2025
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Hull FC
 Fri 23rd May 2025
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20:00
Warrington
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Hull KR
 Sat 24th May 2025
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14:30
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Leeds
17:30
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 Sun 25th May 2025
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 Thu 29th May 2025
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 Fri 30th May 2025
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Hull KR
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v
Wigan
 Sat 31st May 2025
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Wakefield
17:30
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Hull FC
 Sun 1st Jun 2025
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v
Castleford
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Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
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15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
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Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
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20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
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Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
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14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
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20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
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Castleford-Salford
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St.Helens-Hull KR
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17:30
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Wigan-Huddersfield
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20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
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St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 8 252 98 154 14
St.Helens 8 196 58 138 12
Warrington 8 230 112 118 12
Catalans 7 172 86 86 12
Hull KR 7 182 83 99 10
Huddersfield 8 206 150 56 10
 
Salford 7 151 154 -3 8
Leeds 8 140 152 -12 8
Leigh 7 122 154 -32 2
Castleford 8 112 264 -152 2
Hull FC 8 86 310 -224 2
LondonB 8 74 308 -234 0
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
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Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
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