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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Orrell Lad "On paper, I was quite looking forward to the Lions tour - the Rahs are absolutely brilliant at creating an event. In reality though, after over-saturation coverage on Sky Sports - and the quite poop on field product - I've lost interest already.'"

Last night was awful.....in fact, it was worse than awful. The Lions are an opportunity to showcase the game.....but on last nights showing, they were scared of losing and that, in the end, is why they actually lost.

Still, they certainly do know how to pack them in!

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I have to say that the tour so far has been a waste of space. It seems as though until the tests start the Aussies are sending out no opposition and the Lions are not playing their test game plan in case it tips the aussies off.

If it carries on like this i can see the RFU going down the test matches only route in Australia.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Durham Giant "I have to say that the tour so far has been a waste of space. It seems as though until the tests start the Aussies are sending out no opposition and the Lions are not playing their test game plan in case it tips the aussies off.

If it carries on like this i can see the RFU going down the test matches only route in Australia.'"

Why?
They will attract 370000 fans to 9 games over 5 weeks and they are run by the IRB

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The paucity of northern hemisphere talent was brought into full focus against the Brumbies. Calling Shane Williams out of international retirement to pull on a Lions jersey was embarrassing.

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Why so many warm up games ? Oh yeah,, to fill up the ARU's coffers after the dreadful decisions made in Australian rugby this last 10 years. Fair play to them, they know how to milk an event.

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There has been an awful lot of hype around this Lions squad and their opportunity for greatness. I have to say, they may be brought down to earth with a real bump on Saturday. The tour has not gained any momentum and they have played some under strength teams along the way

Can’t read anything into the Brumbies game from a test perspective as none of the players will be featuring but I guess what you can read into it is that the second string team from the whole British Iles can’t beat the second string team from an Aussie province (worrying)

Regarding the test teams, a lot of noise is being made of the quality of the Lions backs and wingers in particular but many Lions fans are underestimating the Wallaby backs. North is a real quality player but Cuthbert is a weak link in defence and in Digby Ioane and Israel Falou the Aussies have two very physical wingers who are every bit as good as the Lions going forward. Add to that the fact that Jonathan Davies in the centres has the worst passing game of any professional rugby centre I have ever seen and I don’t expect the Lions wings to get too many chances

Looks to me like the Lions are looking to boss the game in the forwards and win the thing through territory and penalties – could work but if the game opens up at all I think the Aussies may pull them apart

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Quote: Dunbar "There has been an awful lot of hype around this Lions squad and their opportunity for greatness. I have to say, they may be brought down to earth with a real bump on Saturday. The tour has not gained any momentum and they have played some under strength teams along the way

Can’t read anything into the Brumbies game from a test perspective as none of the players will be featuring but I guess what you can read into it is that the second string team from the whole British Iles can’t beat the second string team from an Aussie province (worrying)

Regarding the test teams, a lot of noise is being made of the quality of the Lions backs and wingers in particular but many Lions fans are underestimating the Wallaby backs. North is a real quality player but Cuthbert is a weak link in defence and in Digby Ioane and Israel Falou the Aussies have two very physical wingers who are every bit as good as the Lions going forward. Add to that the fact that Jonathan Davies in the centres has the worst passing game of any professional rugby centre I have ever seen and I don’t expect the Lions wings to get too many chances

Looks to me like the Lions are looking to boss the game in the forwards and win the thing through territory and penalties – could work but if the game opens up at all I think the Aussies may pull them apart'"


You're right - the Aussies will take them to the cleaners if they manage to turn the game into anything more than a forwards-based grind fest. The Lions lack of creativity was severely exposed at Canberra.

Then again, we can't look past the fact that the backs had barely trained together and included a veteran playing pub footy in Japan. They'll go better next time.

The Lions have lost to provincial sides in the past and then won the tour - cannot write them off yet.

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Aussies are 8/1 to win 3-0. I am very tempted by that

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Quote: gutterfax "Why?
They will attract 370000 fans to 9 games over 5 weeks and they are run by the IRB'"


That might be good for the ARU but the home nations may see it differently. If they are playing weekend mid week teams that do nothing too help prepare for the tests, are no contest and leading to large numbers of injuries. . That allied to national tours, league games, 6 nations,heineken cup etc means the the top players are playing a lot of games and not having much of a rest. That appears to be taking a toll with lots of players retiring due to injury etc.
I could see the home nations saying it is not worth it

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Israel Folau first try scorer tomorrow at 12/1 is tempting

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Quote: dan20rhino "Israel Folau first try scorer tomorrow at 12/1 is tempting'"



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This Folau kid looks great, could do a job in League for sure.

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What's next for Folau, he's played League, AFL and now union. Can the Aussies still draft him into the Ashes cricket squad?

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Well the Lions won, but the Australians should have.
Some very disturbing lack of tackling from the Lions in the first half down our left wing ... what the fook was Mike Phillips doing for Australia's first try????
Standing off tackles instead of moving forward to tackle.
Standing still instead of running in to receive the pass on attack.
Very basic errors, very poor!
How many kicks did Australia miss ... four or five?
We missed one.
No brainer, they deserved to win.
But I think we are a better side, but once again led by people that are too conservative.

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Quote: Stand-Offish "Well the Lions won, but the Australians should have.
Some very disturbing lack of tackling from the Lions in the first half down our left wing ... what the fook was Mike Phillips doing for Australia's first try????
Standing off tackles instead of moving forward to tackle.
Standing still instead of running in to receive the pass on attack.
Very basic errors, very poor!
How many kicks did Australia miss ... four or five?
We missed one.
No brainer, they deserved to win.
But I think we are a better side, but once again led by people that are too conservative.'"


It felt throughout the game like Australia would blow us away any moment if they just stepped up a gear, but it never happened. Lions have to improve, but they could do it.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Hungover In Brisbane with 4 days to kill till origin and this is not a cheap town to drink in!
Best team lost last night........fear of losing is killing the lions

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Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
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SL
20:00
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SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
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