After reading LGJM and RBs posts today i now understand them.

I thought they were just one eyed fans of their own team yet their comments on Bales dive are hilarious.

They both think it was |OK for him to dive as he was preparing for contact.

If you are preparing for contact you check your run, jump up to avoid the tackle dont do something you would see tom Daley doing.


The pair of you are really clueless clowns. Your lengthy posts trying to explain or theorise on football related incidents is hilarious. You had no credibility after your posts on Suarez and on Terry and clearly show you have no credibility on any other football related incidents.

If Mourinho is the the special one it is clear both of you two are special in a different way.

You're just too stupid to understand.

Look at the clip. The only reason there isn't a huge collision is because the 'keeper holds his kicking action at the last moment.

Bale and the 'keeper were in a race to get the ball. Bale won the race, but in winning the race it will look to him like he's going to get hit at a 90% angle by the 'keeper.

To me that clip doesn't look like it was Bale diving to try and get the keeper sent off. As I said, it looks like Bale won the race and then instinctively braced for what looked like an inevitable collision.

At the speed Bale was going, if he checks his run then he loses the race for the ball, possibly ends up colliding with the keeper and getting booked for it. And he can't jump because he's already running at the limit.

It's possible that Bale was cheating and trying to dive to get the keeper sent off. But I don't see any proof of that from that clip. I give the benefit of the doubt to both players that they were both involved in a genuine race for the ball and neither tried to cheat the other.

And I think you're too stupid to even begin to understand what I'm on about. I think you're on the "He made no contact with him, so therefore it's a dive" level.

I'm no fan of Pulis or the way he sets his teams up, but this is obviously a case of trying to deflect attention away from his own players. If it was Ferguson or Mourinho, it would be described as 'mind games'.

Err.......yes. Quite easily. Any normal person's response to not getting penalties when they are fouled would be to be more determined and work harder at staying on their feet.

RE: Suarez diving and the baggage that comes with it.

There's an age old story called Peter and the Wolf that Liverpool fans should read first before having a pop at refs. Refs do as good a job as can be expected and when you have charlatans trying to con them even further it's understandable if they find it hard to interpret theatrics correctly. The only way to address that issue is for the player themselves to take responsibility for their own actions. Blaming the ref for not seeing it is the bed you've made and one that you must lie in until others start to believe you. If a player continues to pepper genuine fouls against with what can only be described as cheating lies (looking to win a foul when one hasn't occurred is deliberately misleading and therefore a lie) resets any good work done. Suarez and players like him are to blame not the referees who, we should remember, are trying to do an honest job.

It looked like he got tripped up by a blade of grass.

Strong gust of wind near the ankles?

Nonsense, they're bent and controlled by the Fergie Association..............

Totally agree, and it makes no sense whatsoever for that to be the logical response to not being awarded fouls. The logical response is to stay on your feet at all times possible in order to maximise your chances of a crack at goal, otherwise you're just handing over possession.

Whilst on about Liverpool, where do people think they have to finish for Rodgers to have done a decent job/keep his job for another season?

I don't think City let Johnson go because of his lifestyle, that was an issue a couple of years ago but not recently. I think they just didn't believe he would make it at the very top and he was no longer willing to be a squad player. In cricket parlance Johnson is a flat track bully. He's great against poor full backs in poor teams, but rarely performs against the better full backs. He probably doesn't have enough pace to make it as an out and out winger. He has good touch, a decent pass and an excellent shot and I could see him developing in a more central role. But he's very unlikely to get the opportunities to make that transition at City. A move to a club like Sunderland was probably in his interests and City got a decent fee for him.

I often think that City have reached the end of the road with Balotelli, most recently when sent off at Arsenal. But then he'll put in the sort of performance he did against Germany and you have to think he's worth persevering with for just a bit longer. I think Mancini doesn't want to be the manager that let him go just before he sorted himself out and realised his potential.

Can't remember which game it was, but earlier this season Torres was through on goal, defender just behind him, but Torres was close enough to goal that he wasn't catching him.

The defender clearly tugged at Torres, causing him to lose balance. Torres, off balance, managed to get enough contact to beat the keeper, but not enough contact to score. The defender who had tugged him carried on his run and cleared the ball just before it crossed the line.

Great defending, said the commentators.

But the clearance was only possible because the defender fouled Torres in the first place. Without that illegal contact then Torres would have been free to finish easily (for this example, let's ignore the fact that Torres ATM is just as likely to have smashed it 20 foot wide as score). A top quality ref would have given the foul because Torres was clearly impeded illegally and the defender gained a clear advantage because of that. But I don't think any referee in the PL would give that in real time. I think at a referee's meeting watching the video, every single ref would agree that the defender should have been penalised for the foul.

Another point on Balotelli. Isn't there also the case that the media exaggerate any issue they can anyway? Balotelli was subbed, took exception to it, as many players do, and slunk off to get dressed. Hardly an open and shut case for getting rid. Fergie would have slapped him around the training ground for slighting him, he might have kicked a few boots at his head, but he wouldn't have been binning him for it if he was scoring enough goals to forgive him.

Citeh getting rid of Balotelli would delight Man United right now. Just as the rest of the PL would be peeing their pants with joy if Chelsea came to the lunatic decision of getting rid of Terry and Cole over the kangaroo court verdict.

'The boy who cried wolf' probably more relevant

I don't see how any of that is at all relevant to my post, did you quote the right one?