Where has the Packers fan gone who posts on here? Is he ripping the arms off his Rodgers teddy?

There is a lack of postings by ST CONROY today Hester is back as a KR ,just when you thought it was safe to kick to him look what happens.Peppers outplayed Matthews and Cutler did enough to win the game after a shaky start.At the start of the season I would have been happy with an 8-8 season but with the defence we've got and an improving offence a trip to Dallas in feb can't be ruled out.

Talking about getting carried away etc. I was reading an NFC West forum this morning and you should hear the Seahawks fans! A very lucky win against the Chargers and they think they are going to Dallas!

Apologies, I quoted the wrong person

The Seahawks were very lucky against the Chargers, we beat ourselves, much like we did against KC.

1st half was a joke. 2nd half our offense was immense, special teams was a joke - like is was against KC. The Seahawks offered little on offense, and when rivers got going, simply couldn't handle him - the picks were a mix of poor WR play, and a forced pass in the final play.

If they win the division it's by default. Really disappointed with San Francisco.

As far as the Bolts go, we're not too far away. D has been immense, the offense could score at any point, it's just putting it together. Special teams has been the let down this year. we miss the Special Team bBast that is Kassim Osgood.

University? Thought you were at Edge Hill?

Shock horror that you don't give any credit whatsoever to the team that's just beaten you. The Packers are one of the best teams in the NFC but to suggest that the Packers are 'the best team in the division by some distance' shows your usual lack of grace and class.

Yes, Edge Hill University but i see what your trying to do there.



I haven't shown a lack of grace, class or given no credit simply because i haven't discussed the Bears, i was looking at my own team.

The Bears are doing well at 3-0. Cutler is far improved from last year and the defence has some steel back. Even when they've looked average the Bears have done well to come out with the wins.

I do think we are the best team in the division. The Vikes are lost without a number 1 reciever, the Lions are competative but still irrelevant in terms of winning the division and the Bears are doing well. However if you look at the wins: Detroit. Calvin Johnson definately scored that TD its just a weird rule. Dallas. Nothing to say it was an excellent win. Us, we shot ourselves in the foot numerous times (losing INT's etc) take away even one of those penalties and we win. We beat ourselves.

Credit to the Bears for being there to win the games but i still feel we are the better team in the division and overall.

We destroyed the Eagles (i think it was 24-3 or similar) until Vick came in. We had not gameplanned for Vick and had very few QB Spy sets therefore whenever Clay got near him he broke free and rushed. Despite that it was a convincing win. The Bills we battered, sure they are poor but we hammered them. The Bears game was disappointing but still it was our own fault. Without numerous penalties we would have had far more points or taken away Bears points (eg the FG on the last drive). Credit to the Bears for taking advantage of our mistakes but even after a poor performance we only lost by a game ending FG. I'm very confident we'll come out on top.

So if they had Vick for the entire game them "may" have beaten you. You can't us if's and but's cause it suits you for the bears but then refute the same argument against the Packers. Got to be fair. They'll be 3-1 sunday anyway after their visit to Giants stadium.

See, that wasn't so difficult, was it? I agree with you - I think the Packers are the better team, however to suggest that they are somehow miles away is stretching it to say the least.

As for the Detroit game, well it wasn't a TD. The call was absoultely correct. However, the rule is stupid and it should be changed.