Premier League is an utter farce, so probably.

England were pretty awful yesterday. Aussies would have had more if they had a clue how to attack close to the line. With the exception of France, the northern hemisphere seems to be falling further and further behind. Argentina are probably stronger than us now.

My philosophy is to try and get level first and then try to win next.
That means, unless there are only seconds left, have a go at all kickable penalties.
That's the smart way to win.
Declining a string of penalties is silly. After all, Australia won by kicking three of them in the second half and for the England coach to say it was a case of hindsight shows that he would make the same mistake again.
Another loser with a loser's mentality.
His record is rapidly showing how effective he is.
More pain to come I suspect.

Here's an interesting one. 2 games tonight in the Aviva, with a combined total of.. 0 tries
We also had such scores as Glasgow 0-6 Leinster in the Pro12..!
What on earth was in the air tonight??

A good effort today by England but no cigar.
They truly have little idea how to craft tries against top sides, apart from trying to barge over.
They have little idea about when and how to pass a ball to good effect.
And yet there must be a myriad of videos of NZ to watch and learn from.

Wasps beat Leicester 14-12

Hopefully Freddie Burns will get a good run-out this week. England have won less than half the games in which Toby Flood has started, the guy is a bog-standard Premiership fly-half and shouldn't be anywhere near an England jersey. Farrell will probably start but he doesn't deserve to, he's not even the best fly-half at his club.

Farrell nominated for IRB player of the year.

Hilarious

Post of the year. Comedy gold.

(It's not true is it?)

Brilliant stuff by England to beat NZ.
Out of left field.
And they scored tries.......wow!

Very impressive. 2 tries scored by foreigners, 1 try by an ex RL player and all the goals kicked by the son of a RL legend. ENGLISH RU is looking healthy.

They did score tries which was an improvement but the All Blacks scored just as many. It was, as usual, decided by who had the best penalty goal kicker.

How bitter do you guys get? Great game, astonishing result. Something else, if England RL beat the Australians, no one would even notice

And by the way the 'RU legend' was nowhere near good enough for union

Who's bitter. RU is an inferior game that cannot usually achieve a result without a multitude of penalty kicks influencing the game as was the case here. Given the paucity of tries from England, it really is astonishing that they should score three, one from a RL winger and one from a centre whose brother played for Halifax and Samoa, so I wonder of any RL influence was involved, not that he's English anyway.

Watch out for the papers tomorrow, he'll probably be pictured diving into the Thames from some ferry or other or throwing somone around in a bar whilst ksissing a floosie.