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| Quote: spooky "Difference with the Cubbies is you can't accuse those in charge of not even trying to put a winning side together. Those incontrol of the Leafs don't want to relinquish it and this is what's holding them back. They like the power too much and so any GM they bring in will effectively have his hands tied from day one. Same can be said of the manager to a certain extent.
Also, the fans do nothing to protest this. We've had plenty of vocal protests at FC over the years when we've been unhappy about the way the club is being run. The Leafs fans just sit and take it. TBH they deserve all they get.
Good win last night though - I am awaiting mass hysteria from the local media.
For me the Leafs are the equivalent to a lesser degree as to how the Blackhawks were run the last 10-15 years under old man Wirtz. Old Dollar Bill was happy to milk the fans and their loyalty making money while not really invested in the team as such. Since the passing of Dollar Bill the Hawks have gone from strength to strength and are now seriously investing in the team and we can even watch them on TV now!!!. I see the same things been done at the Leafs, when they let Corson & Roberts go who were 2 players who (admittedly were on the back end of their careers but) would have gone through brickwalls for the Leafs cause and when Pat Quinn left the writing was on the wall as to how the club was to be run.
Granted Pat Quinn had a huge payroll during his tenure as head coach but his teams regularly outperformed the teams with much greater resources and payrolls, lets face it Pat Quinn wasn't the most successful active coach in terms of games won at the time for nothing, but there only so much you can do as a coach when the peiople upstairs arent interested in success only money. What is happening with Sundin, has he decided his future yet?
Always enjoy catching the Leafs in action when I go over to Toronto.
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| Quote: Chris71 "What is happening with Sundin, has he decided his future yet?
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Nothing from Sundin yet. The Leafs should have told him where to stick it back in August.
...and the Leafs need to stop giving players no-trade clauses in their contracts. It's done nothing but bite them on the recently.
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| Quote: spooky "Nothing from Sundin yet. The Leafs should have told him where to stick it back in August.
...and the Leafs need to stop giving players no-trade clauses in their contracts. It's done nothing but bite them on the booty recently.'"
Couldn't agree more. For a player who keeps saying the Leafs mean so much to him he can't decide what to do I'd hate to think how he'd treat a club he didn't think anything of.
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| Bruins beat the Avalanche 5-4
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| Quote: spooky "Difference with the Cubbies is you can't accuse those in charge of not even trying to put a winning side together. Those incontrol of the Leafs don't want to relinquish it and this is what's holding them back. They like the power too much and so any GM they bring in will effectively have his hands tied from day one. Same can be said of the manager to a certain extent.
Also, the fans do nothing to protest this. We've had plenty of vocal protests at FC over the years when we've been unhappy about the way the club is being run. The Leafs fans just sit and take it. TBH they deserve all they get.
Good win last night though - I am awaiting mass hysteria from the local media.
To be fair it has only been in fits and starts that the Chicago Tribune, who own the cubs, have put together half decent sides. They too are usually happy to just milk the cash cow. There has been a big improvement in recent seasons, but as the club is up for sale they have only done this to increase the value of the franchise rather than a genuine attempt to win the world series, imo.
As for leaf fans, I don't suppose I can comment that much and as you have first hand experience of them I will take your word for it. Maybe they have just grown to accept mediocracy.
Picking up on the Sundin issue that others have mentioned, I just feel sad at the way this has all turned out. Sundin has hung the leafs out to dry, he should have let them know what his plans were within weeks of the completion of last season. Even if Sundin had made the decision to move onto pastures new, his legacy would have been safe, just like Zach Thomas and Jason Taylor at the miami dolphins. Unfortunately, regardless of how this situation is resolved I feel his legacy will now be slightly tainted.
Great win last night. I have got it recorded and will watch it after the rugby later. I can't wait for tomorrow night's game either and the return of Don Cherry.
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| Quote: spooky "My other half's stepdad was training Shawn Thornton for a while this summer. He's a former boxer so you can guess what type of training it was.
Swearing. He was training to swear. I was sat by the Bruins bench and during the second period Thornton came off ice on a line change he let a loud and very clearly audible, single word,"F**K".
Avs lost 5-4 and as the Boston fan sat next to me said "When a team is so outplayed and wins its usually because the winning teams goalie has played an exceptional game. Tonight our goalie was pretty average, your goalie was awfull" (5 goals on only 20 shots). That I think was a fair reflection.
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| You go nowhere in the NHL without a good N/M and the Avs don't have one,it's going to be up to the forwards to score enough for you to win games this season.
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| 4 and 0 at the moment!
Not getting too far ahead of myself though. Got two tough games coming up, and then the Leafs.
Devils will always be a tough cookie, as will the Sabres after them. Still, we're playing some good, solid hockey and getting the results.
Which reminds me..........I REALLY need to order NASN back sometime soon.
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| Quote: Mistah Leeâ„¢ "4 and 0 at the moment! but really hope that we have not seen the last of HNIC on NASN.
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| Boston Bruins have traded defenseman Andrew Alberts to the Philadelphia Flyers in exchange for forward Ned Lukacevic and a fourth round pick in the 2009 NHL Entry Draft. The 2009 fourth round pick becomes a 2009 third round pick if the Flyers resign Alberts at the end of his contract which expires on June 30, 2009.
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