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| Quote: Fresh Prince of Chesh-air "Fair enough, I'm not defending what he has said or anything. Just irks me how people moan about something they've no doubt done themselves at some point.'"
I can categorically state I have never called someone what Terry was alleged to have called Ferdinand.
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| Quote: flipper "I can categorically state I have never called someone what Terry was alleged to have called Ferdinand.'"
What he said, but without the 'alleged' bit since Terry admitted using that particular phrase.
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| I bet Chelsea don't sack him.
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| Quote: Dead Man Walking "I bet Chelsea don't sack him.'"
Why should he be??
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| Quote: John_D "What he said, but without the 'alleged' bit since Terry admitted using that particular phrase.'"
He admitted using that phrase. He categorically denied calling him that though.
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Lenient John Terry ban may concern black players - Paul Davis www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19761706
Joey Barton, Stan Collymore, Paul Davis have all come out in condemnation of Terry.
It's enough to make you want to smash someone's jaw in.
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Lenient John Terry ban may concern black players - Paul Davis www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19761706
Joey Barton, Stan Collymore, Paul Davis have all come out in condemnation of Terry.
It's enough to make you want to smash someone's jaw in.
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "Lenient John Terry ban may concern black players - Paul Davis
Did you really just say that?
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| What a bizarre club Blackburn Rovers is.....They back Steve Kean through a disastrous season, ignoring constant supporter pressure, giving him little financial support and find themselves, unsurprisingly, relegated.
Despite this, they keep him in the job, hand him a fair sized amount of cash to splash, and they start the season in a half decent fashion.
So what do they do next??.....Sack him of course.
Of course, the Venkys are great comedy value to all outsiders looking in, but for Blackburn fans this is just piling up embarassment on top of embarrasment....Jack Walker must be spinning in his grave.
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| Quote: McClennan "Did you really just say that?'"
Yes, I did.
Seeing as you ask, the reason I wrote that was because Paul Davis is the same Paul Davis who got banned for 9 games for BREAKING ANOTHER PLAYER'S JAW WITH A PUNCH. A detail the journo failed to mention when filling in the career details of this man who people clearly struggle to remember.
I kind of think someone who got a 9 match ban for breaking someone's jaw really isn't the best person to complaining about the length of someone else's sentence.
And I just find it ridiculous that three of Terry's quickest critics happen to be Barton, Collymore and Davis. What Terry has done in the entirety of his career doesn't add up to what each of those to55ers have done in a single incident.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "What a bizarre club Blackburn Rovers is.....They back Steve Kean through a disastrous season, ignoring constant supporter pressure, giving him little financial support and find themselves, unsurprisingly, relegated.
Despite this, they keep him in the job, hand him a fair sized amount of cash to splash, and they start the season in a half decent fashion.
So what do they do next??.....Sack him of course.
Of course, the Venkys are great comedy value to all outsiders looking in, but for Blackburn fans this is just piling up embarassment on top of embarrasment....Jack Walker must be spinning in his grave.'"
Good mate of mine is a Rovers fan and he detests both Kean and the Venkys. They may have points on the board but their performances have been woeful apparently and it's a matter of time until they get pummelled.
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "Lenient John Terry ban may concern black players - Paul Davis
Hypocrisy knows no bounds unfortunately. Collymore IMO is an excellent pundit, one of very few on TalkSport, talks a lot of sense. He is however very prone to becoming very uppity about racial issues, dismissing and retweeting anybody who seems to hold a different view to his own. Joey Barton...needs no words. I'll be honest, i've never heard of Paul Davis, he's from slightly before my time, but he seems in the same boat as Barton in the way that he's got no room to talk. Even before i looked at his profile on that link, i had a feeling he'd be somehow involved in the elevation of black people in football. Why is there the attitude of ''we NEED more black managers in football'' by the way? Isn't everybody supposed to be there on merit. not just for tokenism.
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| Quote: 100% Wire " Why is there the attitude of ''we NEED more black managers in football'' by the way? Isn't everybody supposed to be there on merit. not just for tokenism.'"
Its got to be a concern that the huge increase in black players in recent decades hasn't seen a corresponding increase in black managers. Clearly there would be a time lag but we're well past the stage when that could be a factor. The ratio of black managers to black players just cannot be justified.
Its instructive looking at the experience of black players and coaches in the NFL. For decades there used to be a view that "black players couldn't play quarterback". Then a few black quarterbacks such as Warren Moon dispelled that myth and very quickly black quarterbacks became commonplace. That was followed by the view "black players can't become head coaches". Again a few succesful black coaches changed that perception.
I think it only needs a couple of black football managers to have some success and we'll start to see a rapid acceleration in the number of former black players going into management.Its just getting the process going that's the problem, which is why there are calls for some form of affirmative action.
The NFL introduced the Rooney Rule to encourage the employment of black head coaches. I'm not sure that would work here, simply because the appointment of football managers rarely complies with any formal recruitment process. But surely it cannot be denied that there is a genuine problem?
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| Quote: Cibaman "But surely it cannot be denied that there is a genuine problem?'"
It can't be denied that there is a lack of black managers, but calling this a 'problem'? Why? Calling it a problem is, in a round about way, saying there is still some form of casual back-handed racism whereby chairmen or whoever won't take on a black manager because of his skin colour. Is this REALLY the case? There are black players, and black EX-players who live with some sort of chip on their shoulder, almost with a sense of entitlement. They are more than happy to spread this around too. a few years back, a DVD of England's greatest players had to be pulled from sale because Paul Ince complained there were no black players included. He should be aware that playing a period of a match in Rome with a bloodied bandage on your head does not mean you belong on a 'Greatest Players' DVD. If more black managers come to the fore, then great, bully for them, nobody should notice the colour of their skin though, their ability is what should count, and if you're black but not good enough, don't put it down to your skin colour.
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| Quote: citywolf "Why should he be??'"
That's obvious.
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