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Quote: richardviking "Rejected and Liverpool are going back with another offer, according to Times journalist Tony Barrett (a good LFC source). I think he'd be a good addition. We're definately a CM light, Lucas and Meireles look shattered lately.'"


I'm sorry, but if Woy had been after Adam you'd have all be citing lack of ambition, 'not a Liverpool player' etc etc

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Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Yes, I was being naive, but I was also raising the question of why clubs persist in putting themselves into huge debts, paying huge wages to guys who will do little more than jog up and down a touchline all season?

Saddened questioned Moyes' wisdom in selling Yakubu and Vaughan, yet if the 2 players aren't going to be utilised (which its obvious those 2 weren't), then it surely makes perfect sense, especially in today's precarious financial times, to get shut?

As for having a small bench?....Be serious, do you really need a 7 man bench??....I've always thought it was a bit of a joke. If you are going that far, you may as well have a full 11 on the bench, its ridiculous.'"


It may be ridiculous in your opinion but that's the way it is now, a 7 man bench and have you seen outs lately? it's so weak, full of inexperienced youngsters we can't afford injuries otherwise we're in big trouble, outside out first 14 or so players we are lacking quality, I agree you don't need a huge squad as it does cause problems, the problem our squad's really weak, we are desperate for quality in my opinion. We've lost Pienaar so now we are a creative player down and Arteta's been hit and miss all season so I'm getting quite concerned, I don't want to be scrounging around in the bottom half of the league but the way we are going we will be for a long time. It doesn't make any sense to send Yakubu out on loan or sell Pienaar if we don't replace them. Saha is injury prone and Beckford is still developing in this league, out midfield's been underperforming all season yet Moyes lets out two best in those positions, IMO, leave. Baffling.


Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Well you keep thinking that whilst your club scrap for mid-table and probably won't win a single thing, whilst those with big squads will forever try and compete on all fronts. I am highly disturbed if you can't fathom why clubs have deep squads.'"


To be honest the way things are looking and considering there's only one week of January left I'm getting really concerned about us now, it's not just about the squad size but the lack of quality. Look at our bench against you last week mate, so inexperienced and so weak. If we picked up even two or three injuries we've got kids to come in and that's it. We're scrambling around in the bottom half of the league and for a lot of this season we have been so so poor, disguised by some good results against the top five and a derby win in November. I can't believe Moyes has let Yakubu and Pienaar leave and, at the moment, there's no signs of replacements. It's a big worry.

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Quote: Nikaed "Liverpool bid £4 million for Adam.'"

Is Adam the kind of player Liverpool are now trying attract?

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Quote: Dan_FC "It may be ridiculous in your opinion but that's the way it is now, a 7 man bench and have you seen outs lately? it's so weak, full of inexperienced youngsters we can't afford injuries otherwise we're in big trouble, outside out first 14 or so players we are lacking quality, I agree you don't need a huge squad as it does cause problems, the problem our squad's really weak, we are desperate for quality in my opinion. We've lost Pienaar so now we are a creative player down and Arteta's been hit and miss all season so I'm getting quite concerned, I don't want to be scrounging around in the bottom half of the league but the way we are going we will be for a long time. It doesn't make any sense to send Yakubu out on loan or sell Pienaar if we don't replace them. Saha is injury prone and Beckford is still developing in this league, out midfield's been underperforming all season yet Moyes lets out two best in those positions, IMO, leave. Baffling.


To be honest the way things are looking and considering there's only one week of January left I'm getting really concerned about us now, it's not just about the squad size but the lack of quality. Look at our bench against you last week mate, so inexperienced and so weak. If we picked up even two or three injuries we've got kids to come in and that's it. We're scrambling around in the bottom half of the league and for a lot of this season we have been so so poor, disguised by some good results against the top five and a derby win in November. I can't believe Moyes has let Yakubu and Pienaar leave and, at the moment, there's no signs of replacements. It's a big worry.'"



I think its quite apparent that we are on our knees financially, and have been for a while....Even the odd splurge we used to have (Feillani, Billy, Yakubu ) isn't happening any more.

Whatever some people may think on the subject, the rejection of the Kirkby move was a huge nail in the Everton coffin as a competitive Premier League club.....Moyes is feeding on crumbs and releasing Pienaar, Yakubu, Vaughan is a neccessity to stay alive. I fully expect Rodwell to provide the next financial lifeline in the summer.

My main surprise is that Moyes continues to hang around.....Being so highly thought of, he wouldn't be short of decent offers and he is already quoted as saying he wouldn't hang around if our progress stalled, which in the last 18 months, it obviously has.

The only hope that I have, is that the last time we were this low, was when Rooney left, followed by a few of our stalwarts of the time, and at that point we looked pretty much doomed, yet with a couple of bargain buys (Cahill & Bent) we actually began our most successful era for a while, which, unfortunately, we haven't managed to build on due to a serious lack of investment.

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Quote: Catalancs "Is Adam the kind of player Liverpool are now trying attract?'"


Possibly more that he's the kind of player Liverpool are now able to attract.

Might not be world class, but he's got a very good brain and passing game. Judging by the post Blackpool game soundbites I think we're finally at the stage where Liverpool fans realising that they are currently a lower-midtable team and there isn't a quick fix available. I just think it's a bit sad that they needed the return of the messiah before they'd admit it. Hodgson was the right man for the job that needed to be done IMO, it was just that few were prepared to admit that.

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Quote: 100% Wire "I'm sorry, but if Woy had been after Adam you'd have all be citing lack of ambition, 'not a Liverpool player' etc etc'"


Totally agree. The differing treatment of Hodgson and Dalglish is appalling IMO. I realise why, but it's still not right.

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Quote: 100% Wire "I'm sorry, but if Woy had been after Adam you'd have all be citing lack of ambition, 'not a Liverpool player' etc etc'"

You're become boring with all these, "If Hodgson would of done that" or "If Hodgson would of signed him" posts. Hodgson has gone now and deserved to go.

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Quote: 100% Wire "I'm sorry, but if Woy had been after Adam you'd have all be citing lack of ambition, 'not a Liverpool player' etc etc'"


Absolutely bang on that. How long until Dalglish wears out his welcome? The guy surely needs to get a result soon.

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Quote: Nikaed "Sorted. Still need a defensive midfielder. Adam can play the Alonso role.'"


I take it you're making some kind of a joke ? comparing Adam with Alonso ? icon_lol.gif

the day you lost Alonso was the beginning of the end...........

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Quote: sanjunien "I take it you're making some kind of a joke ? comparing Adam with Alonso ?

I'm not a Liverpool fan and I'm not comparing Adam and Alonso. I'm saying he can play that role for LFC, by that I mean a midefielder who can pick a pass and control the pace of the game, something LFC don't have at the moment. Which means Gerrard and Torres getting good ball early and often. Please try to use you brain before posting mate. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Nikaed "Sorted. Still need a defensive midfielder. Adam can play the Alonso role.'"

Quote: Nikaed "I'm not a Liverpool fan and I'm not comparing Adam and Alonso. I'm saying he can play that role for LFC, by that I mean a midefielder who can pick a pass and control the pace of the game, something LFC don't have at the moment. Which means Gerrard and Torres getting good ball early and often. Please try to use you brain before posting mate.
i'm not a LFC fan either and being completley devoid of brain cells ie.being a THFC fan since 1961 if you want to mention player of the Alonso category not many come close in the Premiership,maybe Modric ?
If you're proposing someone like Adam (decent player ok) LFC might just as well look at someone like Jamie O'Hara who is a class act and would do as goos job as Adam for LFC ie.a hard working,grafting midfielder.If Adam was THAT good he would already be at a 'big' club.
Big players cost big money - the King knows that...

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Brad Friedel declared bankrupt? That's him playing until he's 45.

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Quote: sanjunien "i'm not a LFC fan either and being completley devoid of brain cells ie.being a THFC fan since 1961 if you want to mention player of the Alonso category not many come close in the Premiership,maybe Modric ?
If you're proposing someone like Adam (decent player ok) LFC might just as well look at someone like Jamie O'Hara who is a class act and would do as goos job as Adam for LFC ie.a hard working,grafting midfielder.If Adam was THAT good he would already be at a 'big' club.
Big players cost big money - the King knows that...'"



Again, not comparing. Just people who have similar attributes. Modric doesn't anyhow IMO.

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Quote: Nikaed "Again, not comparing. Just people who have similar attributes. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: sanjunien "now I KNOW you are taking the p**s !

So Modric is a great long range passer, with quite a good defensive game. Who'd line up as a defensive midfielder? With the ability to go forward, I seriously doubt it. Modric is an attacking player who can go past people and a tricky player. Their games are both different, Huddlestone's attributes are closer to Alonso than Modric. Adam can pick a pass and control the pace of a game. Similar attributes to Alonso but not of the same quality. I suggest your watch a bit more football, you haven't learnt much in your 49 years. icon_wink.gif

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 Sat 24th May 2025
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 Sun 25th May 2025
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 Fri 30th May 2025
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 Sat 31st May 2025
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 Sun 1st Jun 2025
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Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
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20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
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15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
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Sun 16th Feb
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Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
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Wakefield-Hull KR
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Warrington-Catalans
SL
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Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
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15:00
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SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
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14:30
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Hull FC-Leigh
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This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
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Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
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