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| Quote: Roddy B "Not seen the match but decided I'd watch a replay of the red card. Not sure how people can really see Evans' challenge as less deserving of punishment than Shelvey's. They were almost identical, both lunges and wild. However, what I really can't understand is the unbelievable ignorance towards Evans. You talk of Suarez's dive yet Evans' reaction really is up there with Busquets and the like. Don't think the tackle deserved a red, a yellow to both or red to both, but never one innocent, one completely guilty.'"
What on earth were you watching?
Evans get to the ball first, which in these situations is always enough. He plants his left foot and actually kicks the ball with his right. There was nothing reckless about Evans' involvement at all, and nothing wrong with his reaction either, take the blinkers off.
Shelvey's right foot goes up Evans' from his ankle to his calf.
The best viewpoint is the slow mo from behind Shelvey, where you can see the referee's left shoulder on the right of the screen.
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| Quote: Saddened! "What on earth were you watching?'"
It doesn't matter what he watches. The problem is those red tinted glasses that every LFC supporter wears.
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| Quote: Fresh Prince of Chesh-air "LFC fans love a good twitter picture dont they? There was one going around 'proving it was Evra who refused Suarez's hand'...now there is one 'proving that Evans should of been sent off as well'....'"
Probably because he should of been. Stuart Holden knows how Evans tackles.
He tweeted: "I've seen that tackle before". Holden is still out 12 months later.
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| Quote: Saddened! "What on earth were you watching?
Evans get to the ball first, which in these situations is always enough. He plants his left foot and actually kicks the ball with his right. There was nothing reckless about Evans' involvement at all, and nothing wrong with his reaction either, take the blinkers off.
Shelvey's right foot goes up Evans' from his ankle to his calf.
The best viewpoint is the slow mo from behind Shelvey, where you can see the referee's left shoulder on the right of the screen.'"
Are you dim? Evans leaves the ground and lunges right in with two feet in the air. Put 'Shelvey' into a well known video site and watch the replay, Shelvey's foot barely touches Evans and actually seems to block the ball from being cleared. There is no way you can honestly say Evans went into that challenge with control, he's in the air and both of his feet are moving together to make a two footed challenge. It's highly reminiscent of the challenge between Kyrgiakos and Fellaini all those years ago, when Fellaini and Soto probably should have been sent off, but only one person was despite having his ankle surfed on. I imagine you turned a blind eye to that as well, conveniently.
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "Think he should have done it after the verdict, or as soon as the charges were announced after he'd been cleared in court.
Glad he's retired from international games. Wish he'd done it earlier.
The FA are clearly contravening their own rules. By the FA's own rules if a case has been tried in a legal court the verdict should be accepted.
Still, the Terry haters will be pleased. They've got part of what they wanted.'"
Don't like Terry at all, but can certainly understand his stance on this
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Tottenham's biggest problem is that they truly believe they are a big club and have a God given right to be winning trophies, when in fact they should be happy being a consistant top six side.
Now, I'm no fan of 'Arry Redknapp, but he did manage to bring stability to the club, something that Spurs have never ever had in my lifetime....Unfortunately, the know-nothings in charge of the club allowed themselves to get carried away again and fired him.
Obviously, I'm going to say this as an Evertonian, but the trust and faith put in David Moyes is a great example of how a football club should be run - I read Robbie Savage blathering on about how great Moyes would make Everton if had £40-£50 million to spend, yet, like many, fails to see that the reason for Everton's supposed over-acheivement over the years, is simply through continuity.
I firmly believe the worst thing that could happen to Moyes and Everton would be a huge influx of cash as it would disrupt things so much - A regular input of £5-£10 million per year + any cash from sales is all Moyes, or any decent manager actually needs.'"
THFC think they are a big club, not their fans - we know our place and that place is well behind the Gooners just as Everton is behind LFC and Man City well behind Man U however much money they care to spend -
but THFC are a decent sized club who for some reason seem to get these delusions of grandeur - two 5th places wasn't good enough with Jol and you saw how they treated 'Arry
total repect for Moysie from just about every fair minded football fan - top coach and well done Bill Kenwright for giving the vote of confidence early doors
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Obviously, I'm going to say this as an Evertonian, but the trust and faith put in David Moyes is a great example of how a football club should be run '"
Do you think that's because they're all ethical men or more to do with the fact that they can't afford to let Moyes go or they'll be in bigger trouble than they could ever imagine?
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| Both Moyes and Wenger haven't lasted their reigns out of any special loyalty or correct methods of the club directors. It's just that their work has deserved the tenures they've had. But throw in a couple of non-CL qualifications for Wenger, or a couple of serious scrapes with relegation for Moyes, and they would have been at the risk of firing just like they would at any club.
Same with Fergie at United. He was close to the chop in his early years at United because the results weren't as good as the club needed. It was as much by luck than judgement that things turned around and he'd emerge into one of the most successful managers ever.
But these reigns are the exception. And Wenger and Ferguson are two exceptional managers, with Moyes being an excellent mid table boss, with the potential to be something more. But you don't treat every manager like they've been treated, because most of them don't deserve it.
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| Mark Halsey has complained to the police about twitter abuse he received after the game yesterday. What a horrible grass, he's gonna get proper booed every time he's at Anfield now
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| Quote: McClennan "Do you think that's because they're all ethical men or more to do with the fact that they can't afford to let Moyes go or they'll be in bigger trouble than they could ever imagine?'"
loyalty works both ways - Everton have shown loyalty to Moysie despite some dodgy moments so Kenwright & board have been vindicated by showing consistency and giving the manager time - Moyse has also shown loyalty as he must have had some decent offers over the years but maybe the BIG one, soon to become vacant (well, he cant live forever, can he ?) will be too good an offer to turn down.....
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| sad news about Martin Kelly at LFC, out till next year with knee problems following that innocuous looking fall
get well soon mate
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| Quote: sanjunien "loyalty works both ways - Everton have shown loyalty to Moysie despite some dodgy moments so Kenwright & board have been vindicated by showing consistency and giving the manager time - Moyse has also shown loyalty as he must have had some decent offers over the years but maybe the BIG one, soon to become vacant (well, he cant live forever, can he ?) will be too good an offer to turn down.....'"
Aye fairy muff. Not sure he'll get offered that job. He could be a cheap option for the Glazers but they don't strike me as the kind of folk that would give somebody who has won nothing the reins at one of the biggest sporting businesses in the world. It'd be like appointing a store manager from Haydock Spar to manage Harrod's.
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| Quote: sanjunien "sad news about Martin Kelly at LFC, out till next year with knee problems following that innocuous looking fall
get well soon mate'"
Gutted for him. Doesn't matter whether people rate him or not, to get where he's got to considering the injuries he's had throughout his career, he really does deserve huge respect. Hope he comes back better than ever, he's a good lad so he shouldn't go the way of Michael Johnson, but it must be crushing for him.
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| Quote: McClennan "Aye fairy muff. Not sure he'll get offered that job. He could be a cheap option for the Glazers but they don't strike me as the kind of folk that would give somebody who has won nothing the reins at one of the biggest sporting businesses in the world. It'd be like appointing a store manager from Haydock Spar to manage Harrod's.'"
He might be a good, low risk, low cost sacrificial lamb. A lot of the very top managers would turn the job down post-Ferguson, particularly if he has success before he retires. Bring Moyes in and he either does well and carries on Fergie's legacy or he doesn't and he takes the fall. A new manager can then be brought in to 'fix' things rather than having to come in and live up to Ferguson.
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| Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "
The FA are clearly contravening their own rules. By the FA's own rules if a case has been tried in a legal court the verdict should be accepted.
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Its a slightly, but significantly, different charge to the court case. He was charged by the CPS with using racially abusive language likely to cause alarm or distress. He was acquitted on the basis, that although he accepted using the language, it wasnt proven that it would have been likely to cause alarm or distress, because of the context. The FA charge is that he used racially abusive language. Nothing about it causing alarm or distress. The context, whether Ferdinand was likely to be offended, is irrelevant.
If it hadnt been for the Suarez case I'm sure the FA would have let the matter drop. But because of the Suarez case and the justification for that verdict (ie that the context is irrelevant, its only what he said that matters) the FA didnt have much option than to bring the charge. Otherwise they would have been wide open to the accusation of treating Suarez unfairly compared to Terry.
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