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| Quote: sanjunien "in Holland Heuralio Gomes was hailed as 'the greatest' footballer in the Eredivisie - no, really worshipped as an extraordinary talent and THFC signed this superman goalie expecting the same brilliance
words can't describe how he turned out !
Steady on. He was adored by PSV fans. Everyone else - me included (FC Twente since you ask) - thought he was, and remains, your archetypal South American flap merchant.
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| Quote: sanjunien "in Holland Heuralio Gomes was hailed as 'the greatest' footballer in the Eredivision - no, really worshipped as an extraordinary talent and THFC signed this superman goalie expecting the same brilliance
words can't describe how he turned out !
I don't really understand your point. The German league is far superior to the Dutch league.
As a side note I was reading something the other day that tried to show Gomes was a deceptively good goalkeeper. Just one prone to calamitous errors. I have to say some of his shot stopping can be superb and it's more composure that lets him down. I'll have to try and find what I was reading to see how they attempted to show this, I was slightly suspicious at the time but appearances are not everything.
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| Quote: Alex J "I don't really understand your point. The German league is far superior to the Dutch league.
As a side note I was reading something the other day that tried to show Gomes was a deceptively good goalkeeper. Just one prone to calamitous errors. I have to say some of his shot stopping can be superb and it's more composure that lets him down. I'll have to try and find what I was reading to see how they attempted to show this, I was slightly suspicious at the time but appearances are not everything.'"
true the dutch league is inferior but the point is that just because someone played for a top German club doesn't make him a worldbeater in fact, I can't think of that many germans (ok, I know he's a Turkish international) that have really made an impact in the Prem - Klinsmann & Ballach maybe but otherwise not too many others of that quality ?
in fact I can think of many more dutch players who have made the Prem grade compared to germans...
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| Quote: sanjunien "true the dutch league is inferior but the point is that just because someone played for a top German club doesn't make him a worldbeater in fact, I can't think of that many germans (ok, I know he's a Turkish international) that have really made an impact in the Prem - Klinsmann & Ballach maybe but otherwise not too many others of that quality ?
in fact I can think of many more dutch players who have made the Prem grade compared to germans...'"
Didi Hamman.
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| Quote: Lord Tony Smith "Didi Hamman.'"
I agree to an extent, a good solid 7/10 player. I wouldn't have him down as doing really well in the premier league, at the same time I'd hardly say Jurgen and Ballack were amazing. Lehmann was alright at the Gooners.
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| Solid from England. Ox looks good... Gerrard has been giving the ball away a lot though
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| Quote: Wollyhood "I agree to an extent, a good solid 7/10 player. I wouldn't have him down as doing really well in the premier league, at the same time I'd hardly say Jurgen and Ballack were amazing. Lehmann was alright at the Gooners.'"
Jurgen saved us from relegation so that's good enough for me
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| Don't think that many Germans have come over really have they?
There was Ziege, who i thought was a reasonable player
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| Quote: sanjunien "in Holland Heuralio Gomes was hailed as 'the greatest' footballer in the Eredivision - no, really worshipped as an extraordinary talent and THFC signed this superman goalie expecting the same brilliance
words can't describe how he turned out !
How many times have you watched Sahin, son?
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| Quote: Roddy B "How many times have you watched Sahin, son?'"
what, live or on telly dad ?
live = zero
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| Quote: sanjunien "what, live or on telly dad ?
live
In general. TV, live, stream, whatever.
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| Quote: Roddy B "In general. TV, live, stream, whatever.'"
yes - tv for Dortmund over the years and a couple of times in La Liga- not during his dutch period tho'
decent player but not LFC class IMO - more like Stoke City level
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| Quote: sanjunien "yes - tv for Dortmund over the years and a couple of times in La Liga- not during his dutch period tho'
decent player but not LFC class IMO - more like Stoke City level'"
Really not sure how you can come to that conclusion. Are any technically good players Stoke City level? Let's be honest, their level of player is 6ft2+, club footed and generally talentless. Anyone that can play football is surely above Stoke? Unless you're Charlie Adam, of course.
IMO, he'll probably end up being too good for the Liverpool of the past couple of seasons, he should be at a top 4 club. However, if we end up signing him, he could be one of the key players to getting us back into the CL - he's that good.
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| Quote: Roddy B "Really not sure how you can come to that conclusion. Are any technically good players Stoke City level? Let's be honest, their level of player is 6ft2+, club footed and generally talentless. Anyone that can play football is surely above Stoke? Unless you're Charlie Adam, of course.
IMO, he'll probably end up being too good for the Liverpool of the past couple of seasons, he should be at a top 4 club. However, if we end up signing him, he could be one of the key players to getting us back into the CL - he's that good.'"
hope you're right RB, your lot deserve a good side - i'm not anti LFC just someone giving an opinion - problem is, i'm just as pessimistic for my team with that maniac AVB in charge (for the moment...)
difficult to watch LFC labouring with 2nd rate players IMO when I as weaned on the likes of Lawrence, Smith, Yeats, O'Callaghan, Thomson, St John & Lawler et al
you've got a good boss so good luck for the season
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| So Stoke turn down Demba Ba due to his injuiry record and then sign Michael Owen. Classic Pulis.
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