It's on LFC tv now, lot's of people would have lost one if not two family members, amazing turnout from the Liverpool public.

To this day not one single Liverpool fan has ever stood up and admitted that they were at Hillsborough that day without a ticket

And yet we know there were hundreds if not thousands

When that happens the whole truth will be known

Yes the police officer in charge made a big mistake , but he was put in that position by a large number of Liverpool fans , it could have been any of a number of other clubs , anybody who went to those type of matches in the 70,s and 80,s knows what used to happen

Unfortunatley the ones that died were the ones that should have been there , hopefully one day just one of the people who know in their hearts the contribution they made to the disaster will hold their hand up and admit it

Who? you? back it up! then

At 3.05 when the tragedy was occurring the best estimate of numbers in the end is 9,734 against a capacity of 10,100

Ticketless fans had fcccuk all to do with it you liar.

What your point i only said it was on sky news aswell i didnt mean anything by it only to let people who may have wanted to watch it that it was on

Who is to blame is of no significance today in my opinion, isn't today about remembering those who died?

No without hooliganism the police would not have had a real role to play and may not even have been in the ground. There would have been no fences and if a crush develop it'd be a case of getting over a small wall onto the pitch.

Football and its supporters made the environment, police made the mistakes on the day.

The 96 who died deserve justice.

My point is that if the police had done there job right 96 fans would have come home, the year before 1988 same ground same teams different police, in the ground on the terrace there was merseyside police directing fans away from the central pens once full in 1989 this did not happen.

Do you know alot about Heysel? I'm asking that as I don't.

Your a WUM if you want to know about Heysel google it.

I'm not sure it was that clear cut as after that game there were complaints Liverpool should have had the Kop end and these re-suraced when the draw for 1989 was made. I think the police insisted it stayed that way because of the road infrom the M1 meant they found it easier to house Forest fans at the Kop end.

As I put it could have been any number of clubs , so this is not a dig at Liverpool FC or it's fans

Also as I put anybody who attended such matches back then knows the score

Theft,pickpocketing,fighting,causing enough aggravation by blocking the turnstyles were all tactics used to try to gain entry to those matches by fans of all clubs

You can deny it all you like , as for proof , well that wont happen as none of the fans there that day without a ticket are going to admit it

The police officer was in a no win situation , if one fan had died outside then he would have taken the blame for it , he stated that he opened the gates because people's lives were in danger outside the ground because of the crush of people

Not at all, I was asking as you knew so much about Hillsborough thought you might know alot about that as well with it being very significant in your clubs history.

Heard that said a few times.

I remember watching it on TV and it was a day of shame for UEFA, Liverpool and Juventus and the fact the game went ahead after the tragedy was the biggest disgrace of all.