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| Quote: Steve-O "Brook getting stretched big time tonight!'"
Great fight!
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| it was. and so was the matthews v rees! hope v proksa now.. the first one was an absolute gem of a fight
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| Hope got well and truly put in his place IMO, he's not at that level. Well done for getting lucky first time around, but class came through. Do think Barker would snot either of them though.
Brook needs to stop thinking he's some sort of hardman who can get drawn into wars and survive. If Jones could really bang he would have had him out of there before the end.
Fury fight was a total mismatch. Maddalone looked like he'd spent two years as a doughnut tester, not a professional boxer. They need to decide where Fury is going, because fighting bums six times a year is going to get old quick for the TV companies. He needs a proper trainer used to working with top class heavyweights.
Eubank Jr will be a good domestic fighter, maybe European level, but the best fighters will walk him down. He's not heavy handed enough to keep people off him once he goes up in levels.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder " They need to decide where Fury is going, because fighting bums six times a year is going to get old quick for the TV companies. He needs a proper trainer used to working with top class heavyweights.
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Just wish they'd put him in with David Price, so this whole Fury myth could be exposed once and for all.
Interesting that in all the post fight discussion Price was never brought up once, probably because they know they haven't the bottle or talent to take the Liverpool lad on.
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| Sounds like Brook has been cutting corners in training according to Hearn. Brook's mentioned something too about getting a top class conditioner to work on his strength and staminia which is good to hear. It's a plus that he's come through a fight like this because he did prove his chin and heart are there. Hopefully he learns to vary is attacks more and go to the body. It was the body shots that really took there tole on him and along with the broken nose almost cost him the fight.
I hope he has a couple more fights against some decent contenders before he goes for the title. There talk of him fighting Hector Saldivia (41 (KO 32) 2 (KO 2) from Argentina and that would be another good test for him. He still has lots of potential but there're many things to work on.
As for Fury, he did what he was supposed to, and its clear now he needs to step it up. He does do some things well, he's got a good jab, fights tall and throws good varied combos to head and body. As he continues to improve his conditioning his movement will improve. I think Price os the better of the 2 but I don't get why a lot of people ar dismissive of him. He's only 23 with is prime years to come. If anything Price at 29 is the one who really needs to get a move on.
I'm not sure about Eubank jnr. He seems to be being thrown to lions a bit early in his career. He's only had 30 fights as ameture and a pro so its obvious he's learning the game so its difficult to tell where he can go. His defense is poor and as a result he's going to be in his fair share of tear ups.
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "As for Fury, he did what he was supposed to, and its clear now he needs to step it up. He does do some things well, he's got a good jab, fights tall and throws good varied combos to head and body. As he continues to improve his conditioning his movement will improve. I think Price os the better of the 2 but I don't get why a lot of people ar dismissive of him. He's only 23 with is prime years to come. If anything Price at 29 is the one who really needs to get a move on.'"
I think it's the hype around Fury on the basis of knocking over a bunch of nobodies that leads people to dismiss him. He's certainly not all he's cracked up to be, and talk of throwing him to the Klitschkos within 12 months is ludicrous.
He really does need to get in with a live challenger, if only to show people that he isn't all hype.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "I think it's the hype around Fury on the basis of knocking over a bunch of nobodies that leads people to dismiss him. He's certainly not all he's cracked up to be, and talk of throwing him to the Klitschkos within 12 months is ludicrous.
He really does need to get in with a live challenger, if only to show people that he isn't all hype.'"
From what I've seen, Fury is Frank Bruno to David Price's Lennox Lewis.....You just know full well that somebody of a half decent ability will pick Fury apart - He is so stiff, somebody with movement and a little speed will knock him out pretty quickly.
Price v Fury is an obvious match, but its also obvious that Fury's handlers won't let him anywhere near Price, not until one of them has a World belt in their possession, or until after Fury has been battered by a Klitschko.
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| fury v wladimir would be a mismatch, fury is just waiting till vitali retires
khan saying people are more intrested in his fight than the haye v chisora fight yeh right,sure the viewing figures will prove this
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| Quote: brearley84 "
khan saying people are more intrested in his fight than the haye v chisora fight
Well, I don't know about everybody else, but I'm with Khan on this.....Much rather see a genuine World level fight, than a domestic fight between a half decent fighter and another who is making a career out of being a grade A prick (Take your pick out of which is Haye & Chisora... ).
As for the viewing figures, considering the heavyweight bout is on an obscure specialist channel and Khan's is on Sky Sports, then I'd be pretty confident that Khan will come out on top on that one.....As for a worldwide appeal, then its obvious that Haye/Chisora barely registers outside of the UK.
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| My only hope for Haye/Chisora is that it turns into a scruffy, scrappy 12 round bore-fest that ends both their careers.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "My only hope for Haye/Chisora is that it turns into a scruffy, scrappy 12 round bore-fest that ends both their careers.'"
that wont happen, its over 10 rounds! haye wanted 10 and he also moaned about the ref and got that changed too. cant stand him, hope it comes back to haunt him
looking forward to the fight and will be cheering chisora
if he wins he gets a possible shot at wladimir who has pulled out twice on him
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| Chisora will be game, he always is, but Haye will stop him inside 6 rounds.
Khan-Garcia is a far more interesting fight with 2 titles on the line, and neither guy has been in a bad fight for a while. Plus I want to see Khan batter Garcia just so Garcia's old man will shut up. Haye-Chisora is a bit of a sideshow.
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| looked at garcia's boxing record... got a split decision against ashley theopane but hang on hes beaten morales...then again theopane is ranked higher than theopane!
easy win for khan.
boxers nowadays are too afraid to lose, picking easy fights, thats why people are losing intrest.
i respect people like froch and chisora...they will fight anyone
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| Quote: brearley84 "looked at garcia's boxing record... got a split decision against ashley theopane
Who shold Khan fight instead? He's fighting Garcia to unify the division and fighting for the Ring belt, its the obvious fight to make. Bradley and Alexander have moved up, Peterson is probably banned and Maidana lost to Alexander at WW a couple of months ago. Garcia isn't that good, Khan should win, but then again most people thought Peterson would be an easy night.
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| Quote: brearley84 ".
i respect people like chisora...they will fight anyone'"
.....Are you being serious????.....Chisora has to fight anybody just in order to earn some cash - The problem is, he never beats anybody, because he is an awful fighter.
He fought Fury, stunk the place out and got beat.....Warren then wangled him a go at the European belt, even though he shouldn't have been anywhere near it, and though his performance was an improved one, he still got beat....Then, bizarrely, he gets a shot for the World crown, and, as expected, again got beat.
If he didn't have Warren has his promoter, he'd rightly be a million miles away from boxing, and instead standing outside nightclub doors, which is all his talent actually warrants....I'm not a huge fan of Haye's, but I hope he seriously busts Chisora up on Saturday night, mainly because, beneath all the arrogance, Haye does possess a bit of boxing ability, which with the present state of Heavyweight boxing, is a rare thing.....Plus, I think a fight with David Price somewhere down the line, could be an actual classic domestic fight.
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