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Quote: Ordsall Quays Red " everyone on here is nice and civil...so far!

Until your D has sacked Rodgers 7 times on sunday and you'll have an argument on how you the Packers were unlucky. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Nikaed "Packers v Jets


Jets because they think they're number 1 team in the city, despite them always being the 2nd.
We were last season, and we currently are this season icon_wink.gif

I'm not confident for Sunday's Superbowl Preview game icon_wink.gif
Our pass defence hasn't been up to much and with Aaron "Montana+Elway+Marino" Rodgers playing for them I think he'll pick us apart. Though Revis is meant to be 100% fit so that should help.

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Quote: Ordsall Quays Red "We were last season, and we currently are this season

Save it till next year.

Superbowl.
Jets @ Giants in New Giants Stadium. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Nikaed "Save it till next year.

Superbowl.
Jets @ Giants in New Giants Stadium.
Just imagine that...you let getting beat at your "home" stadium in the Superbowl icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Ordsall Quays Red "We were last season, and we currently are this season How's Cromartie done for your lot this year? I was glad to see the back of him in SD and believe we have upgraded in moving Cason in. Would be interested to see your views on him after the first half of the season.

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From what I've seen he's done a lot better with Revis out of the side. He (as well as the rookie Wilson) was/were getting picked on all the time when Revis was there (obviously) but appears to have improved with being the main CB. It could all be a case of getting used to systems etc too but I think he's done OK so far. 2 picks in 6 games is pretty good considering he'd only had 5 in his last 2 seasons with you men.

As an aside, where do you think you're going wrong, Norv apart?! You have all the weapons at your disposal but it never quite seems to fall into place.

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Quote: Ordsall Quays Red "From what I've seen he's done a lot better with Revis out of the side. He (as well as the rookie Wilson) was/were getting picked on all the time when Revis was there (obviously) but appears to have improved with being the main CB. It could all be a case of getting used to systems etc too but I think he's done OK so far. 2 picks in 6 games is pretty good considering he'd only had 5 in his last 2 seasons with you men.'"


He was definitley going backwards for us. He is one player who has all the physical attributes but lacked desire last year. That Shonn Green run in the playoffs where he shyed away from the tackle still makes me angry! Maybe Rex has toughend him up. He needs that rather than the arm round the shoulder style of Norvous.

Quote: Ordsall Quays Red "As an aside, where do you think you're going wrong, Norv apart?! You have all the weapons at your disposal but it never quite seems to fall into place.'"


Well Norv is an idiot, there's no doubt about that. I want him out, but I thought Halling blaming him for the dumb plays on Sunday was a bit off the mark. He was saying how fabulous BB is for coaching his players never give up on a play, but on the second one, the defensive Pat (who's name illudes me at the mo) swiched off too, it was he coaches on the Pats sideline that were screaming at him that the ball was live! You can't blame Norv for that, although I'd like to.

Our biggest problem is lack of killer instinct on both sides of the ball. Our defence has been great so far - as seen with the numbers. However, there are key areas that they are lacking. Key drives where they can't stop the offense. There was a 3rd and 7 against St Louis with the game on the line. You have Sam Bradford and Steven Jackson. With respect to Bradford, in that situation you are always going to put it in the hands of your best player. For some inexplicable reason, the Chargers played the pass and allowed Jackson to run for 10 yards. Little things like that are so annoying and are difference makers. Same with the Pats game, 2nd down play on a key drive at the start of the 3rd quarter and a stupid penalty by Garay leads to a 1st and 10 rather than 3rd and 8. Dumb, dumb plays.

On offense, again we hang numbers up there in terms of yards but you need to put it into context. We have been trailing in a lot of games this year due to turnovers - which is the offenses fault. Fumbles have killed us - 12 so far, and too many in the red zone. That means Rivers throws. A lot. He had 50 pass attempts on Sunday. When you're as good as he is, you will make a lot of plays so the yardage numbers are enhanced. However, when it comes down to it we don't punch it in. We had chances @ KC, @ Seattle @ Oakland and at home to the Pats to win it in the 4th quarter an blew it all four times. Rivers needs to lead us to wins in them games rather than getting us close.

Finally it's special teams. They definetley were the cause of 3 out of our 5 losses, and you could argue Sundays too, with that dumb false start penalty on the game tieing field goal attempt. But Steve Crosby, our Special Team co-ordinator still has a job. Why? Because Norv has no guts to make the call. Look how swiftly Soprano acted in Miami. I dream of that ruthlessness from our HC.

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Quote: Ordsall Quays Red "Quick and massively random question for everyone...what would be the Superbowl you'd most HATE to see?? The 2 teams you hate the most or 2 dull teams??

I'd have to say Patriots v Cowboys as they are perhaps the 2 teams I dislike most for various reason...Belichick, Brady, Jerry Jones, Troy Aikman and Joe Buck...No offence to anyone on here of course as everyone on here is nice and civil...so far!
Steelers v Redskins for me icon_sad.gif

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Anyone nipping on a mode of transport down to the capitol on Sunday?

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Buccaneers vs. Browns for me. Not a good one I would imagine.

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Quote: Dead Man Walking "Buccaneers vs. Browns for me. Not a good one I would imagine.'"



Luckily by the time we get round to the Super Bowl in a few years time we wont be the same team as now icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Ordsall Quays Red "Quick and massively random question for everyone...what would be the Superbowl you'd most HATE to see?? The 2 teams you hate the most or 2 dull teams??

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Jets v Giants. Jets are the most overrated team. I don't particularly dislike them but simply because the Colts decided they didn't want to be undefeated and then a crappy Carson Palmer folded like paper. I just generally dislike the Giants for what they did to us in the last Favre game as a Packer. That said i'm a big fan of Aaron Ross and Kenny Phillips.

I'd also hate to see the Cowboys, I find the whole "America's Team" stuff arrogant and Troy Aikman is a terrible commentator/analyst and returns every conversation to his time at the Cowboys.

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For me it's the Broncos vs the Giants.

The Broncos are just s horrible franchise. From management to coaching staff to players to fans.

The Giants purely because I still hate Eli!

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Quote: RedTez "For me it's the Broncos vs the Giants.

The Broncos are just s horrible franchise. From management to coaching staff to players to fans.

The Giants purely because I still hate Eli!'"


Spot the Chargers fan icon_wink.gif

Probably for me, Patriots v Vikings, Pats due to sheer hatrid (the rivalry and all), and Vikes due to the sheer love-in that would be the media and Favre.

Wouldn't mind a Manning Super Bowl, that'd be fun, since Peyton seems to own Eli icon_wink.gif

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Troy Smith is starting this week for the 49ers. Instant upgrade for the 9ers he is significantly better than Alex Smith and David Carr.

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