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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"If ever a team on the field reflected its management then it was England in New Zealand. Devoid of ideas beyond hoof it and chase, poor in defence and negative in all facets of the game.'"
Yup.
Incidentally, [url=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1331738.eceThe Sun names, pictures and shames the four[/url caught up in the sex row.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"If ever a team on the field reflected its management then it was England in New Zealand. Devoid of ideas beyond hoof it and chase, poor in defence and negative in all facets of the game.'"
Andrew was the most overrated player of any generation. He had no heart, no inventiveness, no pace; all he could do was kick. Everything that typified England yawnion of that period & led me to detest watching a game I grew up playing at school. Long may he remain in charge of elite (sic) yawnion.
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"Andrew was the most overrated player of any generation. He had no heart, no inventiveness, no pace; all he could do was kick. Everything that typified England yawnion of that period & led me to detest watching a game I grew up playing at school. Long may he remain in charge of elite (sic) yawnion.'"
Just wait til Johnson gets hold of them, it'll go from 10 man rugby to 8 man rugby - you might as well pick back rowers on the wings and centres as they'll never see the ball.
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| Quote Vida15="Vida15"Yup.
Incidentally, [url=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1331738.eceThe Sun names, pictures and shames the four[/url caught up in the sex row.'"
I've never heard of any of them. Surely Topsy cannot be his first name can it ?
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| Quote Dead Man Walking="Dead Man Walking"I've never heard of any of them. Surely Topsy cannot be his first name can it ?'"
It is indeed.
Danny Care scored on his first Test start on Saturday.
He came on as a substitute making his debut in the first game.
Strettle has played a few times for England, and Ojo made his debut in the first Test IIRC, scoring once or twice.
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| Quote Dead Man Walking="Dead Man Walking"I've never heard of any of them. Surely Topsy cannot be his first name can it ?'"
Turvey is his middle name
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| Quote MikePB="MikePB"Turvey is his middle name'"
That's quite good 
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"Andrew was the most overrated player of any generation. He had no heart, no inventiveness, no pace; all he could do was kick. Everything that typified England yawnion.'"
You can just end the sentence there. 
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| [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/7481130.stmTindall, Kay and Worseley as well as 11 others dropped from the Elite squad.[/url
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| Quote Vida15="Vida15"[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/7481130.stmTindall, Kay and Worseley as well as 11 others dropped from the Elite squad.[/url'"
What's the point of having them in the Saxons, which is supposed to be about developing players for the next level?
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"What's the point of having them in the Saxons, which is supposed to be about developing players for the next level?'"
No idea, it does seem a strange decision. But it obviously suggests that Johnson still has a place for them if he is willing to give them a chance in the Saxons.
Cipriani is in the Saxons squad due to his injury, meaning that once again, England have a squad with only one specialist 10...Wilkinson.
Hodgson is dropped all together.
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| I have a feeling Hodgson will force his way back in through outstanding performances for Sale and due to the fact that no-one is outstanding.
He has defensive weaknesses but so do most stand offs.
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