Thank god that rancid old fart is finally retiring.

This is the end of United's glorious era. Their great teams in the past have come and gone, but fergie has always been there to keep things ticking over.

I think that david moyes will do alright at United. They'll still play good football, they'll challenge in europe, and for the title, and they'll win domestic cup competitions. But the lions share of titles over the next decade will go to city and chelsea.

This is a golden opportunity for city. The 2 main rivals, united and chelsea will be bedding in with new managers, they are already settled with a proven manager. Back mancini, and I guarantee they'll win the title next season.

But no, like a bunch of f*cking idiots, they'll sack Mancini, and then they've set the tone. That's it, they'll be just like chelsea, stuck in a perpetual rot of chasing instant success and changing manager everytime it doesn't happen, exasperating the situation further.

Actually, scrap that, man united will still take the lions share of titles over the next decade because every time chelsea and man city lose a game they'll be on the verge of sacking the manager. Stupid, stupid clubs.

In fairness to Chelsea and Abramovic, sacking managers left right and centre has hardly meant a lack of silverware (not saying I agree with him btw)

That's because of player power. When the players get what they want they perk up again, that's resulted in about 2 fa cups and a champions league.

They want to create a dynasty but they'll never do that by getting rid of managers so often.

Do you think Man City should have sacked Mark Hughes?

Yeah.

You agree with the sacking of Hughes because the decision has been proved to be correct. But Man City were improving under Hughes and on target to reach decent goals under him.

But they felt they could get a superior manager in and they did.

You say that Mancini is a proven manager. Personally I think his record has shown he's not a top level manager.

IMO they are just doing to Mancini what they did to Hughes.

Hughes had no track record of success. Mancini does. Under hughes they were ambling along, with a manager who had no track record of success, they were right to pre empt he probably wouldn't be successful with them.

Mancini had a track record fo success before city, and has achieved success now at city. If they stick with him for next season and he's allowed to make the required squad adjustments they'll win the title again next season. If they get rid of him they'll get a new manager who'll want to stamp his own authority on the team and they may not win the title back straight away.

This is mancini's first real 'failure' of a season at city. If man united got rid of ferguson after every 'failure' they wouldn't have won nearly as many titles as they have.

Is Mancini's City vision actually any good though? When it's counted this season City have been toothless. As an Everton fan I always look forward to the City game as they are a soulless and heartless side you can roll over with a bit of commitment and little else.

City with Kompany and Yaya Toure look a competent side, but without them the rest look very, very average. The likes of Clichy, Barry, Garcia, Milner and Kolorov aren't CL quality players and Nasri has never really settled into any real form.

If Mancini is sacked, he can have no complaints, he's failed to generate any real consistency this season and bar the odd week here or there after the title was decided, I'd struggle to suggest a time this season when City have ever been at the top of their game.

OK Saddened, we all get that Everton actually perform against one of the big teams, well done and get over it. Mancini is a decent manager, he had the top job in Italy and he won things with them, he came over here and won a league with City when they were written off pretty late in the season. I don't particularly like him, but he isn't this cretin you're making him out to be. Just a manager that I believe is unhappy with his squad and has resorted to tactics that aren't very good to reflect that. IMO, of course.

Mancini didn't get anything like the credit he deserved for City's league and cup wins. He'll always be remembered with a great deal of admiration and gratitude by City fans.

I think it would have been possible for him to recover from City's poor league defense. Plenty of clubs with well respected managers have had a disappointing season the year after a league win. And at this stage City's league record is worse than last year by just 4 additional draws.

His biggest problem obviously was the CL flops, particularly this season. The risk was that if we flopped a 3rd time we'd either be looking for a new manager in December, or he'd effectively be a lame duck until next May. He also didn't make matters easier for himself by constantly falling out with all and sundry. Whilst I'm still a big fan of him, I didn't think his public criticism of players was right. When he first took over, City needed a manager who was prepared to be hard nosed with the players, but it should still have remained behind closed doors.

I'm not sure whether or not Pelligrini is an upgrade on Mancini. But its clear now that Begiristain is the one calling the shots on the football side at City.

Yet again its very disappointing the inept way that City have handled this. I'd hoped the club would have learned lessons from the Hughes fiasco, but apparently not.