In 2002/03 we 'celebrated' '100 years' of top flight football...but this was not continuous, it was 100 in total top flight seasons. I'm sure we were the first club to celebrate this but I believe its Arsenal who have never been relegated so surely they had that 'honour' first. The following season we 'celebrated' the clubs 125th anniversary since we were formed.

Poor thats all we have had to celebrate during Moyes' tenure at the club.

Well what do you expect?

When Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham and Man City have all been better than Everton at some point (all still are at the moment, City obviously weren't for years), is it reasonable to expect some sort of silverware?

I know that some poorer sides than Everton have won silverware during his years, but I don't think it should be used as a knock on Moyes as there have been many sides on a different level to Everton.

You think Liverpool are better than Everton at the moment? We finished above you last season (did that make us better than you? Hmmm, I'm not so sure) and this season we've only been below you on goal difference and we had a game in hand? FWIW I think you will finish above us this season but I wouldn't say you were better than us just like although we finished above you last season I wouldn't say we were better than you then.

Of the other above sides I have mentioned this before that only Arsenal, Chelsea, Utd, Spurs and Liverpool have won silverwear since we have but have not been relegated/ in the division below since we last won a trophy. So as you say its not as bad as it seems but were just desperate for a trophy.

This season Everton were knocked out of the cups by Leeds United and Wigan Athletic. Pathetic.

Last season they were knocked out by Liverpool and Chelsea. No blame there IMO.

Brentford and Reading. Pathetic.

Birmingham and Tottenham. Spurs acceptable. Brum, poor.

Blackburn and Chelsea. Losing to Blackburn, poor. Losing to Chelsea in the final, pretty decent achievement.

Oldham and Chelsea (semi final). Pathetic, good.

Arsenal and Blackburn. Acceptable. Very poor - they were stuffed at home by Blackburn.

Middlesbrough and Chelsea. Poor, reasonable.

Man United and Arsenal. Understandable.

Fulham and Boro. Poor.

Shrewsbury and Chelsea. WTF??? and fair enough.

When Liverpool are getting rid of a manager who won them a League Cup and an FA Cup Final place. When Chelsea get rid of managers who've recently delivered massive prizes. When Mancini's position is perhaps under pressure despite delivering them the FA Cup and League. When Fergie earned his job at Old Trafford with League Titles and a European trophy, you've just got to ask why, and how, Moyes is ever linked with taking over from Fergie at United.

When Everton have managed to qualify for Europe, most of the time they perform so poorly they shouldn't have even bothered entering.

Moyes is clearly a good manager. He's clearly done a good job with Everton in the league. But Everton are big enough to expect far more than Moyes has delivered in the cups.

once again england were very sloppy defending set plays. arguably unlucky not to win, but serves hodgson right for not going for the jugular when the second half started. trying to defend a lead for too long nearly had catastrophic circumstances once again. rooney was unlucky with the chip, would've been a brilliant goal had it landed the right side of the post.

watched portugal at tea time and blimey they are shocking for a nation with such a glittered squad. postiga is a bit of a donkey. bit like belgium, they have a solid defence and midfield but not a quality, fox in the box type, centre forward. they will have their work cut out making the tournament. ok, they rattled the bar and made the azeri keeper make a save or two, but the chances they were missing are the type of chances the big nations convert. red card was their saviour.

Well done Woy for sitting on your hands in true Sven fashion when things were going tits-up in midfield in the second half.
I was half wanting Montenegro to get the winner such was our talent for suicide.
Screaming at the telly does not get fresh legs onto the field however.
Woy, you are pitiful.

England's propensity to run backwards rather than tackle until they almost collide with Hart is astonishing.
Leave it all to Lescott.
Carrick the cardboard cut-out.

Yet again I was left baffled by how Tom Cleveley and Glen Johnson get anywhere near the England team. Although Hodgson didn't help himself by waiting until after the goal to make changes. Although until we start producing players who are comfortable in possesion with a better first touch and technique, and get them playing week in week out for their clubs we'll remain a long way off the top nations.

Suarez at it again. Throwing a punch this time. But hey, he does come across as someone who's a really, really great guy off the pitch.

Was a misunderstanding, i think Suarez probably just wanted to show the Chilean his new ring but thrust his fist too close to his face.

Spot on. With the Premier League awash with money you would think that the clubs would try and buy some decent youth coaches from Spain,Germany,Holland etc to teach the kids at their academies,so that a production line of young,gifted technical players would come throw their ranks as opposed to blowing it all on foreign players who have the ready made qualities.

Something needs to be done or we will go the way of the other home nations

aye, even though portugal were crap last night, at least they can keep the ball.