Give it time im sure Liverpool will offer 20 mill for him.

Then Spurs will come in and offer 21 mill

Fellaini is exactly the type of player the the likes of Man Utd & Arsenal need. He can play anywhere through the middle, and is equally effective in the defensive third as he is the attacking, if not more so.

Moyes just thought Fergie on Monday - hence Fergie's whining after the game. He couldn't find and answer to dealing with it.

Fergie, despite all his success, can be a right prick at times.....I mean, he moans that Everton played a direct, lump-it-to-the-big-man type of game, yet he was the bellend who chose to play a relative midget at centre half....



Now, I'm not Bill Shankly, but with United's line up and the players at Moyes' disposal, I think it was a pretty logical ploy that Everton employed?....

Was baffled by Fergie's post-match comments. Everton played some good football in the first half and put together some decent passing moves. They didn't simply 'lump the ball' up to Fellaini the whole game. They were by far the better team and could have won by 3 or 4.

Fergie had De Gea and a crossbar to thank for not having a much bigger score against them.

I'm no fan of Everton, and while it's true they sat off when they went 1 up they were well, well worth their win.

Indeed. Everton aren't a long ball team now and haven't been for a few years. We've not had a proper target man to do that with and with the likes of Osman, Pienaar and Baines in advanced positions there is no reason to be one. Fellaini was pushed right up as a tactical response to United's weakness at the back. Vidic wasn't anywhere near fit, he looks ill and has lost a good couple of stone. But despite that, it wasn't mindless balls lumped up, the passing was brilliant. It was direct at times, but always to Fellaini, not just mindlessly thumped forwards. There was also a mix of passing, a lot of one touch stuff that really opened United up.

Fergie has spent £24m to try and ensure his promise that City won't beat them on goal difference ever again. But he's still not solved the problems everyone else can see they have. He's becoming as stubborn as Wenger. They still have no midfield, Scholes and Kagawa are quality with the ball, but offer nothing at all when they don't. Cleverley just seems anonymous in both regards, the game just passes him by. Rather than the £24m on Van Persie, he should have spent it on a Vidal, M'Vila, Javi Martinez, Nainggolan type midfielder and Baines to replace Evra, who is awful.

You will always have an element of long ball in your game under Moyes. Even without a target man - or sometimes even a striker - your lot still punted it long, but instead of challenging for the aerial ball, you would chase for the flicks and deflections, or try to force the defender into a mistake and capitalise on it. Furthermore, if you aren't a long ball team, you're definitely a set piece team. Diving around anywhere near the halfway line just so you could throw Yagyelka and Distin forward.

Your football has always depended on your personnel. During your peak of 'decent football', you had the likes of Arteta, Pienaar, Bily and even Leon Osman playing quite well. It'll be interesting to see how you play this season now Jelavic is a known quantity. Moyes has always struggled with strikers, he now seems to have a fairly reliable one. There's no Cahill in the hole now so he will have to get a lot of his goals through his striker. IMO, it'll be back to set pieces and diagonals by October.

Nuri Sahin is last years Juan Mata. Marca now claiming LFC are favourites to sign the Turk, AFC stalling apparantley because they want a clause that allows them to buy Sahin next year.

Wigan have accepted a bid of £9m from Chelsea for Moses

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Most talk seems to be that Arsenal have pulled out leaving us clear to sign him. Problem seems to be a lack of agreed price. If he does well we're screwed because he's an outstanding player, if he has a good season in England you're looking at £25m+ assuming Madrid would like him back. If Madrid just want rid or they sign somebody else (Modric maybe?), we might be able to get him for a cut price.

I like Sahin. I remember reading loads about him after his early breakthrough into senior football. Never saw much in his early days but I did see him a couple of times on loan at Feyenoord. Seen a few of his games during his last season at Dortmund, he was a different class back then, I just hope he can hit those heights immediately for us. I think it'll take a while for him to adjust to the pace and industry of the English game, but given time he should adjust and become our star midfielder.