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Ireland get 3 places, a 4th if Leinster or Ulster win it which would mean Connacht take it.

France have 6 through the league and a 7th if a French teams wins either European competition. The Amlin Challenge Cup last 4 is all French so they're guaranteed to have 7 teams next season.

England only get 6, again, a 7th if a team wins either European cup or if a team won The LV Cup that hadn't already qualified for The Heineken Cup. Leicester won it so we are limited to 6 teams.

With France having a maximum of 7 sides, Edinburgh and Glasgow guaranteed qualification - if Edinburgh or Clermont win it then it goes to the next available team with the highest ERC ranking which is Wasps.

On that note - Sale in The Heineken Cup all but guaranteed. What an atmosphere it was last week at Gloucester. First time we'd won there in nearly 12 years. The only way we won't qualify now is if Bath beat Leicester with a bonus point at Welford Road and we pick up absolutely nothing at home to Harlequins. I fancy us to get something in our last ever game at Edgeley Park and Leicester are tearing everything in front of them apart so could be a Cricket score against them.

I read a Leinster fan over on planetrugby referring to us being absolute cannon fodder in next years competition. I couldn't care less though. Bring on some big home crowds, great away trips and learning experience for the lads.

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Quote: gutterfax "London Welsh were averaging about 600 fans a game a couple of years ago.......by the sounds of it, they have increased this by 500%.
The Fulhamcrsaderbroncoquinsbroncos RL are plodding along on a 2,807 average, down 44% over 7 years......given the choice of an increase of 500% or a reduction by 44%, I'd think the board and owners of the cottage burners would be a tad happier........
...but keep up the crowd counting By what percentage do you think the costs of London Welsh have increased over the same period? I would think 500% would be very conservative. The owners and board of Welsh will no doubt be loving their time in the Premiership from a profile and success perspective but I don’t think the balance sheet would make very pretty reading

As for the crowds themselves, I would be interested on your take on the fall off in attendances in the Premiership overall. This time last year, we were all debating whether the World Cup in NZ was having an impact on the Union crowds but they are falling away dramatically this year without any particular influencer?

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Quote: gutterfax "London Welsh were averaging about 600 fans a game a couple of years ago.......by the sounds of it, they have increased this by 500%.
The Fulhamcrsaderbroncoquinsbroncos RL are plodding along on a 2,807 average, down 44% over 7 years......given the choice of an increase of 500% or a reduction by 44%, I'd think the board and owners of the cottage burners would be a tad happier........
...but keep up the crowd counting
How on earth is London Broncos relevant to this conversation in any way?

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Quote: Dunbar "By what percentage do you think the costs of London Welsh have increased over the same period? I would think 500% would be very conservative. The owners and board of Welsh will no doubt be loving their time in the Premiership from a profile and success perspective but I don’t think the balance sheet would make very pretty reading'"


London Welsh have increased their crowds and no doubt their spend (probably by more)........but they have increased their crowds, which is what was under debate.

Quote: Dunbar "As for the crowds themselves, I would be interested on your take on the fall off in attendances in the Premiership overall. This time last year, we were all debating whether the World Cup in NZ was having an impact on the Union crowds but they are falling away dramatically this year without any particular influencer?'"


It'll be rolled out as "it's the olympics fault" or something like that, but in reality, they'll be scratching their heads wondering why. I would say they have yet to understand their place on the pecking order of club sport........which is below soccers 3rd tier and that they need to sort out their pricing structures. To a certain extent, they need to stop believing their own hype.....just because the RFU can fill twickenham, doesn't mean that Exeter v London Welsh will create the same interest. When I was home last week I noticed that tickets for England v FIJI were on offerfor 40 notes each.....even the internationals will start to struggle.


Quote: Dunbar "How on earth is London Broncos relevant to this conversation in any way?'"


You were debating the crowds at a union club....I simply pointed out that fans in glass houses should ease off with the stone throwing. I am a die hard Broncos fan, but even I admit that London Welsh have crowds we would kill for.

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Very rarely watch Union but do watch the All Blacks. Tuned into the Australia v All Blacks game today and switched it off at HT. Thought it was very boring!

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Went to London Irish v Mont de Marsan today with a union-loving friend. One-sided anyway, but amazing that even when there's a match full of tries, it's so inferior to League. And the schlock, cod Irishness of the thing was insane- like being trapped in a semi-open O'Neills in Basingstoke.

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