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Moan, moan, moan. Haven't the English noticed there is only one French team left in the Cup?

Come on the mighty Ulster Rugby.

Ulster, Munster and Leinster have great crowds, (Ulster over 10,000 vs Arioni) it's the rest dragging the Irish down, espeically the Scottish crowds, absolutely shocking. As for the quality of the Celtic league I agree with others above, it is absolutely dreadful and to be honest I can only bare to watch it if Ulster are playing and even then...

The biggest problem for union is the opposite problem for league. Intenrationals dominate everything, which tends to lead to clubs having to field weaking sides, which is annoying as your weekly club fixture is you bread and butter. You should be turning out for them regardless of whether you are in an international squad or not. Sinfield played 40 odd games last year. So Ferris, Trimble and Best playnig a few more for Ulster shouldn't really be a problem.

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Quote: gutterfax "London Welsh were averaging about 600 fans a game a couple of years ago.......by the sounds of it, they have increased this by 500%.
The Fulhamcrsaderbroncoquinsbroncos RL are plodding along on a 2,807 average, down 44% over 7 years......given the choice of an increase of 500% or a reduction by 44%, I'd think the board and owners of the cottage burners would be a tad happier........
...but keep up the crowd counting By what percentage do you think the costs of London Welsh have increased over the same period? I would think 500% would be very conservative. The owners and board of Welsh will no doubt be loving their time in the Premiership from a profile and success perspective but I don’t think the balance sheet would make very pretty reading

As for the crowds themselves, I would be interested on your take on the fall off in attendances in the Premiership overall. This time last year, we were all debating whether the World Cup in NZ was having an impact on the Union crowds but they are falling away dramatically this year without any particular influencer?

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Quote: gutterfax "London Welsh were averaging about 600 fans a game a couple of years ago.......by the sounds of it, they have increased this by 500%.
The Fulhamcrsaderbroncoquinsbroncos RL are plodding along on a 2,807 average, down 44% over 7 years......given the choice of an increase of 500% or a reduction by 44%, I'd think the board and owners of the cottage burners would be a tad happier........
...but keep up the crowd counting
How on earth is London Broncos relevant to this conversation in any way?

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Quote: Dunbar "By what percentage do you think the costs of London Welsh have increased over the same period? I would think 500% would be very conservative. The owners and board of Welsh will no doubt be loving their time in the Premiership from a profile and success perspective but I don’t think the balance sheet would make very pretty reading'"


London Welsh have increased their crowds and no doubt their spend (probably by more)........but they have increased their crowds, which is what was under debate.

Quote: Dunbar "As for the crowds themselves, I would be interested on your take on the fall off in attendances in the Premiership overall. This time last year, we were all debating whether the World Cup in NZ was having an impact on the Union crowds but they are falling away dramatically this year without any particular influencer?'"


It'll be rolled out as "it's the olympics fault" or something like that, but in reality, they'll be scratching their heads wondering why. I would say they have yet to understand their place on the pecking order of club sport........which is below soccers 3rd tier and that they need to sort out their pricing structures. To a certain extent, they need to stop believing their own hype.....just because the RFU can fill twickenham, doesn't mean that Exeter v London Welsh will create the same interest. When I was home last week I noticed that tickets for England v FIJI were on offerfor 40 notes each.....even the internationals will start to struggle.


Quote: Dunbar "How on earth is London Broncos relevant to this conversation in any way?'"


You were debating the crowds at a union club....I simply pointed out that fans in glass houses should ease off with the stone throwing. I am a die hard Broncos fan, but even I admit that London Welsh have crowds we would kill for.

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Very rarely watch Union but do watch the All Blacks. Tuned into the Australia v All Blacks game today and switched it off at HT. Thought it was very boring!

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Went to London Irish v Mont de Marsan today with a union-loving friend. One-sided anyway, but amazing that even when there's a match full of tries, it's so inferior to League. And the schlock, cod Irishness of the thing was insane- like being trapped in a semi-open O'Neills in Basingstoke.

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