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Funny how it was only last week we were discussing how Scousers react when accused of something.

If you say the place is crap. They don't articulately point out the reasons that it's not, they counteract with "well it's not as crap as Manchester" as if that somehow is the definitive answer.

If you say the girls dress like tarts, they don't point out the beautiful looking ones, they say, "well they're not as bad as the ones in Manchester", even though they clearly are and much more.

If you say they have no sense of humour, rather than prove they have and give banter back they shout at you in grumpy fashion and say "we're funnier than you, you ####", as if that somehow proves their point.

So what happens when Suarez is accused of racism. Classics like the following get trotted out left, right and centre wherever I look.

1) "Well he's not as bad as John Terry"
2) "He didn't realise he was using an offensive term"
3) "It was racist but have you never said anything racist, and I bet you don't think your racist".

Nothing ever in the history of mankind is their fault. Any old excuse will be trotted out, no matter how lame. And they wonder why everyone hates them.

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Quote: Fresh Prince of Chesh-air "I cant remember that many clear cut chances for either team to be honest.'"


Kelly shaved the post in the first half with a very easy chance, Carroll did as well in the second after being played in by Suarez, Suarez himself fluffed a one on one with Howard where he tried to hit it with the outside of his right foot.

As you mentioned Everton were truly awful. But it's what happens when you start Victor Anichebe, Seamus Coleman, Denis Stracqualursi, Tony Hibbert etc. Everton went to not concede, there was no intent to score or try to win the game. His bright idea was working hard, running around a lot and holding Liverpool to a 0-0. Liverpool are not a great side and with Carragher playing are very open and their midfield has no balance.

It really winds me up how willing to accept it we were. There was no urgency to get back into the game and bar Baines and Drenthe when he came on, there was no passion to win the game. If you are going with the mentality Moyes chose, you've got to be ultra-committed and pressure the opposition into making mistakes. Instead his negativity just meant Liverpool could commit Enrique and Kelly forward with little fear of us breaking.

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Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "Well Pat Nevin thinks that Moyes is the man Chelsea should get. Judging by the Evertonian's on here, I can only think he still loves Everton and is willing to throw us under the bus so we help Everton out.'"


Moyes isn't a 'bad' manager. He would make any side solid, I just think he's done as much as he can with Everton. Over his 10 years at the club he's had several seasons where we've shown promise and won games against good teams. But he lacks the ability to push the club on and take it beyond that hard to beat mid table side into one that can challenge for a European place.

I can't see Moyes ever being successful at a top club like Chelsea. Playing one up front with no wingers and nine men behind the ball at home to Bolton wouldn't go down too well at a club like that.

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Quote: Karlos13 "I'm not too keen on Holt myself but there was clearly confusion over what the fan actually said. The Oldham player would hardly break down in tears for being called a Manc. How many fans could have actually heard what was being shouted over the famous kop atmosphere? Would imagine it would be quite low on numbers.

On a seperate note, did anything happen to the person who was doing a monkey impression to Evra, or did the people sat around him merely claim he had itchy armpits?

Yeah feel free however remember it was a Liverpool fan who brought this issue back into play on this forum rather than an opposition supporter.'"


I don't know what's gone on at the stadium, many people have supported the view that there was a confusion between the word black and manc. It's an easy mistake to make, particularly when you consider accents, and I think there would have been a fair amount of people that heard it. If the Oldham player heard it on the field, you can bet at least 5/10 rows around the man shouting will have heard it.

I haven't read/heard anything about the monkey gesture, I didn't see anybody defending it and I don't recall any witnesses coming out and giving evidence to support the man doing the gesture. Maybe somebody did? I don't know and I don't care to be honest, I don't really care about the fella who wasn't charged for the Oldham incident, but when idiots like Saddened spout drivel for the sake of it, I can't help but have a chomp.

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