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Quote: Mark "I said a few weeks ago that City hadn't played many decent teams, people tried to argue with me. They now have picked up only 1 point our of 6 against Chelsea and Liverpool with Arsenal to come. United are only two off the pace despite being a phantom 7 points behind according to the media, after the Newcastle draw.'"


United have only ever been five points behind after a round of fixtures.

At the end of the day, City have now got the four hardest away games out of the way (United, Spurs, Liverpool and Chelsea) and are still two points clear at the top of the table. United still have three of those four to go to.

If you'd have asked any of us in August would City have been top with virtually all of the hard away games in the first fifteen games of the season, no-one would have said yes.'"


Stoke (a) very tough. Everton (a) very tough. I think you've lost at both in the past 12 months. Still some hard away games to come. It's in United's hands as well now.'"


We didn't lose at Stoke and Everton are not what they were.

Either way, United's fixture list over the last 23 games is harder than City's and we have a two points advantage. We also have a significantly deeper squad.

Before the Liverpool game I said that if we got one point out of the Liverpool/Chelsea games then we'd still be on course and I'd be happy. I also assumed that United would be level with us as I didn't factor in them dropping points against Newcastle.

Therefore we are two points ahead of where I thought and only have one of the big boys left to play away from home. Defeat on Sunday might change my opinion but a record of W 2 D 1 L 1 F 13 A 5 - away to the big four is almost certainly not going to be bettered by anyone this season, and I would suggest you may well have to do that to stay in the race.'"



Sorry, they beat you 3-1 in feb last year. Memory a bit sketchy, still not an easy place to go for you or any team. Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool and us have all struggled there the past year or so. So you were happy with a point at Fulham? A bit strange. A long way to go. City are a great team and rightly favourites for the league, just not as great as everybody makes out.


P.S Where has your "Warrington Wolves, the Manchester City of Rugby league" sig gone. This is the only time it has been correct.
Of course I wasn't happy with a point at Fulham. Where did I suggest I was? icon_confused.gif I don't suppose you were happy with a point at home to Newcastle either, or a drubbing at home to us for that matter, but these things happen to the best of us from time to time.

PS It'll only be appropriate if we finish top of the Premier League and they decide to give us a bin lid instead of a trophy. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Fresh Prince of Chesh-air "I cant remember that many clear cut chances for either team to be honest.'"


Kelly shaved the post in the first half with a very easy chance, Carroll did as well in the second after being played in by Suarez, Suarez himself fluffed a one on one with Howard where he tried to hit it with the outside of his right foot.

As you mentioned Everton were truly awful. But it's what happens when you start Victor Anichebe, Seamus Coleman, Denis Stracqualursi, Tony Hibbert etc. Everton went to not concede, there was no intent to score or try to win the game. His bright idea was working hard, running around a lot and holding Liverpool to a 0-0. Liverpool are not a great side and with Carragher playing are very open and their midfield has no balance.

It really winds me up how willing to accept it we were. There was no urgency to get back into the game and bar Baines and Drenthe when he came on, there was no passion to win the game. If you are going with the mentality Moyes chose, you've got to be ultra-committed and pressure the opposition into making mistakes. Instead his negativity just meant Liverpool could commit Enrique and Kelly forward with little fear of us breaking.

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Quote: Lord God Jose Mourinho "Well Pat Nevin thinks that Moyes is the man Chelsea should get. Judging by the Evertonian's on here, I can only think he still loves Everton and is willing to throw us under the bus so we help Everton out.'"


Moyes isn't a 'bad' manager. He would make any side solid, I just think he's done as much as he can with Everton. Over his 10 years at the club he's had several seasons where we've shown promise and won games against good teams. But he lacks the ability to push the club on and take it beyond that hard to beat mid table side into one that can challenge for a European place.

I can't see Moyes ever being successful at a top club like Chelsea. Playing one up front with no wingers and nine men behind the ball at home to Bolton wouldn't go down too well at a club like that.

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Quote: Karlos13 "I'm not too keen on Holt myself but there was clearly confusion over what the fan actually said. The Oldham player would hardly break down in tears for being called a Manc. How many fans could have actually heard what was being shouted over the famous kop atmosphere? Would imagine it would be quite low on numbers.

On a seperate note, did anything happen to the person who was doing a monkey impression to Evra, or did the people sat around him merely claim he had itchy armpits?

Yeah feel free however remember it was a Liverpool fan who brought this issue back into play on this forum rather than an opposition supporter.'"


I don't know what's gone on at the stadium, many people have supported the view that there was a confusion between the word black and manc. It's an easy mistake to make, particularly when you consider accents, and I think there would have been a fair amount of people that heard it. If the Oldham player heard it on the field, you can bet at least 5/10 rows around the man shouting will have heard it.

I haven't read/heard anything about the monkey gesture, I didn't see anybody defending it and I don't recall any witnesses coming out and giving evidence to support the man doing the gesture. Maybe somebody did? I don't know and I don't care to be honest, I don't really care about the fella who wasn't charged for the Oldham incident, but when idiots like Saddened spout drivel for the sake of it, I can't help but have a chomp.

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