We are tanking, the offence has the air of not being bothered any more, bar the WRs. Defence are trying but end up shattered come the 4th quarter because they're on the field for so long. Theres a reason Pat Angerer leads the NFL in tackles, he's on the field for a lot longer...

Still, 1-15 with the win being at Foxboro, its on I tell thee

Suck for Luck! Do you think Indy will actually trade Manning though? Or will he retire gracefully into a coaching role, helping Luck for example?

Just done the ESPN Playoff machine thing.

I get:

NFC-
1 Seed- Packers (16-0)
2 Seed- 49ers (13-3)
3 Seed- Saints (13-3)
4 Seed- Giants (10-6)
5 Seed- Bears (11-5)
6 Seed- Falcons (11-5)

AFC-
1 Seed- Ravens (13-3)
2 Seed- Patriots (13-3)
3 Seed- Raiders (11-5)
4 Seed- Texans (11-5)
5 Seed- Steelers (13-3)
6 Seed- Bengals (10-6)

Who do you think we beat out of our remaining games? I don't share your optimism about our chances.

I think.

Saints L
Packers L
Cowboys L
Jets W
Redskins W
Cowboys W

I have us at 9-7.

I went:

Saints L
Packers L
Cowboys W
Jets W
Redskins W
Cowboys W


I also put you as one of the games I think we will struggle in (along with tomorrow against Detroit in particular) so I think 10-6 is absolutely possible.

Detroits got the 5th best pass defence (from the ESPN stats), giving up the lowest (as far as i can see) longest play in yards out of all the teams, but their run D is one of the worst. Im thinking maybe Green Bay are going to use Kuhn and Starks a lot tomorrow, as Detroit have the 2nd highest yards per carry in the league too.

Either way, its the only reason im glad for Thanksgiving

FOOOTBALLLL!!!!

I got:

NFC-
1 Seed- Packers (15-1)
2 Seed- 49ers (13-3)
3 Seed- Saints (13-3)
4 Seed- Dallas (11-5)
5 Seed- Falcons (11-5)
6 Seed- Giants (10-6)

AFC-
1 Seed- Ravens (13-3)
2 Seed- Patriots (13-3)
3 Seed- Texans (10-6)
4 Seed- Chargers (8-8) not sure how they've slipped in as I fully expect Oakland to win the division
5 Seed- Steelers (13-3)
6 Seed- Jets (10-6)

I have the Rams going 2-14

I would have thought that would have been the opposite for Detroit actually. Very suprised.

Either way we will be passing it all day long. Rodgers is good enough to do it against any D but more importantly McCarthy always says he isn't bothered about our rushing yards only our rushing attempts and keeping some semblence of balance on offence. Our can't really see us going for a running playing the clock type of game, it just doesn't suit us.

You better use Kuuuuuuuuuuuhn, I am so desperate for RB's I had to pick him up off waivers



I'm 0-11 I'll do what I want

Orton claimed by the Chiefs

Fred Jackson to IR, yes..yes he is on a couple of my fantasy teams



Actually in 1 of the leagues Im not too fussed cos I replaced him with Michael Bush and I have Michael Turner,DeMarco Murray, Ahmad Bradshaw and Chris Johnson not bad to say there is only room for 2 RB's

Ive been impressed by DeMarco Murray this year, not bad at all for a rookie!