Totally agree with the body shot. Yes it would be a point scoring shot (but that's neither here nor there because he was never going to win on points) but more importantly it would put some doubt into Wlad's mind, and if he could hurt him with a few (get dirty and throw it into the kidneys if it was within reach) Klitschko would have no choice but to drop the high left hand guard, his jab would be severely weakened and that's most the battle with Wlad.

I'm not sure going south paw (even just to throw a big left) would have worked to be honest, but I agree that he might as well have been knocked out trying something different and going for the win than simply struggling to a unanimous points loss (were it not for the point Klitschko was deducted, I only gave Haye one round all fight).



Klitschko camp saying Wlad's not interested but Vitali would quite like to knock Haye out! I actually think Haye's a better chance against Vitali, even accounting for his jaw of steel. As you say, 2 weight world champion, could have easily stayed at cruiserweight and taken pay cheque after pay cheque but he challeneged himself. The only defence for the criticism that is coming his way is that he said he was going to attack Klitschko and he didn't, partly no doubt because of the toe but mainly because Wlad was too good.

I don't think, like myself, they thought Klitschko would've been as he was and they'd be able to get at him and break him down and he couldn't. No matter what people say I think the toe will have had an impact on the fight and Haye's tactics but there were still opportunities for him to have a couple of body shots and wear him down plus a bit of pain and it may well have took its toll late on. I think he's held his own at heavyweight, he's beaten, comfortably, anyone who's been put in his way and this was one step too far but he's took the challenge on, something a lot of fighters these days don't do.

Am I the only person who thought it was a bit pathetic blaming it on his toe? He's trained on the toe and will have known what he could and couldn't do on it. If it was as bad as he says it was then fool him for fighting on it.

As for the comments of challenging himself at Heavyweight rather than staying at Cruiserweight and taking easy pay cheques that's a wind up yeah? The heavyweight division is dire other than the Klitchsko's hence why he gave it a go. Knowing very well that while he would pick up reasonable cheques at cruiserweight he would earn a boatload more in any fight with the Klitschko's. A heavyweight clash is always a big earner especially when it's one that unifies the division.

No, there's loads of people who have said the same thing, in fact a lot on here as well. I think people are listening to what they want, they hear him mention the broken toe and have taken it like the whole fight was lost on the injury. Regardless, as has been mentioned, it will have had an impact on the Haye's performance, no matter if he's had injections or he's done this or that it will have impacted, he'll have known at the back of his mind he'll be doing more damage to it by fighting on plus the way he wanted to attack Klitschko would've been limited by it too.



Nah, it isn't a wind up

it's a good point, the fact is he could've just stayed at cruiserweight and dominated the division (like the Klitschkos have in heavyweight) but he stepped up, anytime a fighter steps up a weight it's a challenge, anytime. No matter if it's a weak division or not to go up and take on people who have been heavyweights all along is a challenge and he's done it well up until last night. Of course he would earn a lot more in heavyweight but he could've sat in cruiser and earned cheques that aren't too shabby. To say stepping up a weight isn't a challenge is just stupid.

He is making a lot about the toe and should have not mentioned it.

Dan _FC

some great posts since the fight mate, I can't fault anything you have put. Saved me a long post.

the heavyweight division is garbage other than the klitchkos, thats why haye stepped up in weight and got as far as he did, but like all the rest that failed to beat wlad he was the same and came up way short.

Well there you go, Haye gets exposed as a one-dimensional bag of wind after all.

Plenty of talk, lots of excuses, nothing to back it up.

Time for him to slink away into the shadows with his "legacy" and a nice fat wallet built off the back of the fans fooled by his hype machine.

At least Frank Bruno had a go against Tyson and looked like he may just pull off a shock win. Haye surrendered at the first bell like a French general.

Cheers mate, I'm glad someone agrees on it because I was starting to lose faith. Glad I could save you some time on the posting too

it's nice to see someone else can see the contest for what it was, as always Brits love to criticise. Most would've been gutted if Haye won as they'd not be able to knock him. Good, honest, interview with Haye on Sky Sports News today.



I know, a record that includes two defeats is appalling, shame on Haye for even turning up eh

Ironic that Haye kept making reference to the standard of fighters the Klitschkos are supposed to have hand picked to pad their records. Who's on Haye's list again, Mormeck apart?

And please don't give me the circus freak Valuev as an example.



Put under pressure to perform, Haye fell apart like a wet newspaper.

I think that it should make us appreciate how luck we are to have had 5 world champions at once. Our boxers (Froch especially) do not get enough credit for the level they are operating at.
Haye was giving away 4 inches and 2 stone, against a very good boxer who defends with his whole body and is very light on his feet.
Haye attracts the criticism because he runs his mouth a lot and is rightly being criticised for his out of the ring actions before and after the fight. But at the end of the day he did shake up the HW division, became world champion and came up short. I don't think he did fall apart as such, just didn't have the keys to unlock that defence. Plus he was fighting with a broken toe, which whilst I'm annoyed he blamed, can't have helped the situation.