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| Quote Money Mayweather="Money Mayweather"We do have more players than some seem to think coming through:
Hart
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There're probably more aswell. Hopefully more of these players can break into their club sides and eventually get a chance for England. There's some exciting players coming through, particulary in midfield.'"
Jonjo Shelvey-Liverpool?
Sturridge-Chelsea?
Cahill-Bolton?
Id throw these into your team too.
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| Quote Cibaman="Cibaman"Wasn't that England schools?
Giggs gave an interview in which he said that whole thing about him choosing Wales over England was a non issue. He said he wasn't eligible to play for England, other than at schoolboy level.'"
Correct
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| Quote Cibaman="Cibaman"Wasn't that England schools?
Giggs gave an interview in which he said that whole thing about him choosing Wales over England was a non issue. He said he wasn't eligible to play for England, other than at schoolboy level.'"
It was only for England schools - was Salford schools he played for and was then eligible to be picked for England schools.
Not sure if it's on uchoob but there is some TV footage of him playing for both Salford & England schoolboys.
And whilst there are some good youngsters on the list a few posts up, it ain't exciting players England needs. It's a couple of boring, barely noticeable players who are comfortable with possession of the ball and can distribute it simply to the players around them without resorting to 50-yard lumps upfield.
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| Quote SGTPepperRED="SGTPepperRED"Jonjo Shelvey-Liverpool?
Sturridge-Chelsea?
Cahill-Bolton?
Id throw these into your team too.'"
Adam Johnson could easily be England's star player if given the chance. Robben-esque.
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| Quote Robbie Rotten="Robbie Rotten"Adam Johnson could easily be England's star player if given the chance. Robben-esque.'"
I think he's alot like Hleb actually
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| Quote The Boy TC="The Boy TC"And whilst there are some good youngsters on the list a few posts up, it ain't exciting players England needs. It's a couple of boring, barely noticeable players who are comfortable with possession of the ball and can distribute it simply to the players around them without resorting to 50-yard lumps upfield.'"
Where England have badly, badly missed Owen Hargreaves IMO.
When he's fit, twice the player of Gareth Barry.
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| Quote Stand-Offish="Stand-Offish"It's not a question of how far back.'"
But it is, it was in SL until they brought the rule in about only being able to go back to the last play the ball and that works well. Football doesn't have that break in play that is almost guaranteed to be within a minute of the try.
Quote Stand-OffishYou don't go back to fouls that occurred in back play....just has the ref doesn't now....all fouls are for the ref to sort out....but ones in the penalty area were a penalty is given should be looked at and the ref advised. Only because people cheat and dive.'"
Why not? They are incidents that happen in the build up to a goal, where is your cut off point? Do you allow a foul that immediately allows a cross into the box that leads to a goal, but not a foul that means the player can head it into the goal?
Quote Stand-OffishOutside the box it doesn't matter...it can be just as now.'"
See above example as to how it does.
Quote Stand-OffishI am not asking for a major revamp and for every little thing to be scrutinised. I just want the ref to be helped to get the big things right, because for one they need help in what is a very difficult task and for two we have the technology to help them get it right.'"
I agree, it should be brought in.
Quote Stand-OffishFIFA object on costs grounds .....but really?'"
Nope, it's a p1ss poor excuse.
Quote Stand-OffishWhat is wrong with trialing it?
Particularly at a major competition.
If it proves to be more trouble than it's worth....then rethink it or drop it.
But someone saying it won't work...is not really a scientific way of deciding.'"
Nothing, it should be brought in, but IMO the way you propose won't work.
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| Quote Robbie Rotten="Robbie Rotten"But that is the problem and this is where managers will complain. They will start saying 'the technology is available, why should we accept human error now?', because managers will always moan about every decision, whether it's something that leads to a goal, a second yellow, a straight red or his player being given offside for a good chance. Why should this technology only be available to goals when we can try and get every other decision spot on? Why is human error acceptable for every other big decision, other than goals?
I'm all for technology, but there will be huge problems if mistake after mistake is accepted whilst the technology is available. I mean, look at that Kaka red card the other week, should that just be accepted when we have a ref who can look at a replay and see nothing was wrong? Once the video official is brought in, managers will want it for every decision, because every decision in football can change a game and if the technology is available, why shouldn't they be able to use it?'"
That's why I think the NFL way is the best way to introduce it. Give each manager a set amount of challenges, if they are right they keep them, if they are wrong and use it frivolously they lose one. That would allow contentious decisions to be looked at but should prevent requests for [ieverything[/i to be looked at.
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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"But it is, it was in SL until they brought the rule in about only being able to go back to the last play the ball and that works well. Football doesn't have that break in play that is almost guaranteed to be within a minute of the try.
Why not? They are incidents that happen in the build up to a goal, where is your cut off point? Do you allow a foul that immediately allows a cross into the box that leads to a goal, but not a foul that means the player can head it into the goal?
See above example as to how it does.
I agree, it should be brought in.
Nope, it's a p1ss poor excuse.
Nothing, it should be brought in, but IMO the way you propose won't work.'"
Well at least you think it should be brought in, in some form.
I don't know what the format should be, and I can see your concerns.
But these are details...the fundamental thrust is we must stop cheating like handling the ball into the net, diving to gain a penalty and we must stop disallowing perfectly good goals.
At the end of the day, someone will still have to make a judgment and so it won't be perfect....but I think it will be less imperfect.
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| Quote MrPhilb="MrPhilb"I think he's alot like Hleb actually'"
I dunno. I think he's best as a winger, isolating full backs, cutting in or taking it to the byline. Hlen I feel was at his best in the middle, running at the centre backs with the ball glued to his feet then playing others in. Hleb's biggest problem was he never shot/scored enough, I think Johnson has the ability to score a lot of goals from the wings, particularly if he plays on the right more than the left.
England need a midfielder to operate in 'the hole', I think Wilshere will be the player who eventually does this and he'll do it well, but playing 4-4-2 isn't working. The 4-2-3-1, 4-5-1 or 4-4-1-1, whatever you want to call it, seems to be the way to go at international level. Brazil use it, Spain are now kinda using it, Germany use it, the Argie's kinda use it at times. But having two, disciplined midfielders, one preferably a ball winner, the other a 'quarterback', seems to be the way to go, with a playmaker just ahead of them. I've said before, I'd love to see Hargreaves and Carrick together for England, but I question Carrick's ability to pull the strings.
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| Quote Robbie Rotten="Robbie Rotten"I dunno. I think he's best as a winger, isolating full backs, cutting in or taking it to the byline. Hlen I feel was at his best in the middle, running at the centre backs with the ball glued to his feet then playing others in. Hleb's biggest problem was he never shot/scored enough, I think Johnson has the ability to score a lot of goals from the wings, particularly if he plays on the right more than the left.
England need a midfielder to operate in 'the hole', I think Wilshere will be the player who eventually does this and he'll do it well, but playing 4-4-2 isn't working. The 4-2-3-1, 4-5-1 or 4-4-1-1, whatever you want to call it, seems to be the way to go at international level. Brazil use it, Spain are now kinda using it, Germany use it, the Argie's kinda use it at times. But having two, disciplined midfielders, one preferably a ball winner, the other a 'quarterback', seems to be the way to go, with a playmaker just ahead of them. I've said before, I'd love to see Hargreaves and Carrick together for England, but I question Carrick's ability to pull the strings.'"
Carrick's not good enough, Barry would be better alongside Hargreaves IMO. I accept he had a poor World Cup, but he isn't fit.
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