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| Quote Nemanja="Nemanja"If it wasn't for Gomes we would have scored a couple, he pulled off a couple of great saves in the first half, and before the penalty.
Off the top of my head you came close 3/4 times in the first half, twice you scored, and three of those times (inc goals) were down to errors by Ferdinand. When United came out in the second half, it was a matter of when and how much rather than if.'"
Set pieces, as I have already said was where Utd looked dangerous. The odd chance here and there was no more than Spurs were doing at the other end. I thought Utd broke quickly but offered no clear cut chances through this (prior to the penalty).
How we scored is nothing to do with it really. We exposed the defensive frailties of the apparent brilliant centre half Ferdinand again, I know that much. Does it get any worse than being outmuscled by Darren Bent ?
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| Quote Nemanja="Nemanja"Coming from a St. Helens fan this is very, very funny indeed.'"
It's a good point well made - Ian Smith anyone. Saints can't win the grand final despite Daniel Anderson picking and choosing who refs his team, fergie has not of that influence - LEAGUE is bent and Saints are at the very heart of this shameful shambles, it's a disgrace.
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| Quote flipper="flipper"It's a good point well made - Ian Smith anyone. Saints can't win the grand final despite Daniel Anderson picking and choosing who refs his team, fergie has not of that influence - LEAGUE is bent and Saints are at the very heart of this shameful shambles, it's a disgrace.'"
Saints were exactly the same I agree in terms of Smith.
Smith has more than made for it this year though.
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| Quote Stirlingshire Saint="Stirlingshire Saint"Saints were exactly the same I agree in terms of Smith.
Smith has more than made for it this year though.'"
What's your solution then? Have no officials at any game in any sport? Don't be such a plank. 
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| Quote Nemanja="Nemanja"What's your solution then? Have no officials at any game in any sport? Don't be such a plank.
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Got to be technology. There simply has to be a system in place that can change a wrong decision, such as yesterday or when Mendes scored a few seasons back.
I fail to see why it can't be implemented to stop shameful episodes like that, which has after all ended the title race when it should be wide open right now.
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| Quote Stirlingshire Saint="Stirlingshire Saint"A total lack of evidence blows this away. The game was still sat at 2-0 despite Utd apparently starting the second half well (did they? It looked pretty similar to the first half to me with Utd having no penetration and Spurs defending easily).'"
I can't bring you evidence because it's an impossibility. That's why I'm falling back on Mr Opinion, just like you are. What do you think this is? A UN Conference? It's an internet discussion. I can't bring you proof and I don't need to. Although United coming back to win from behind is hardly unprecedented. We're known for it.
Quote Stirlingshire SaintThe real issue is that everybody concerned with the game (including both managers) knew the first goal and when it came in that second half was hugely important. The referee gave Utd it early on and with it, the game. It was disgusting.'"
The real issue is people masking this one incident to excuse their own behaviour. Spurs for capitulating embarrasingly. Liverpool relying on a blatent dive for their first goal and a possible hand ball in the second (not to mention all the draws which let United into the title race in the first place).
We can all bleat about corruption and they do it all the time in certain circles but if you scroll back just a few pages someone provided detractors with some handy stats about united with regards to penalties and sendings off. Bottom line is, 5-2. Whose fault are the other four goals?
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| Quote Stirlingshire Saint="Stirlingshire Saint"Got to be technology. There simply has to be a system in place that can change a wrong decision, such as yesterday or when Mendes scored a few seasons back.
I fail to see why it can't be implemented to stop shameful episodes like that, which has after all ended the title race when it should be wide open right now.'"
Last time I looked it was possible for Liverpool and Chelsea to still win the Premier League title.
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| Quote Chris Dalton="Chris Dalton"snip'"
This is my last post on the subject as its getting boring tbh.
Its a simple equation really....did the penalty have an impact on the contest ?
Undoubtedly it did, both in terms of the actual scoreline and the mental state of both sides players after. It got the crowd going, rejuvenated Utd and demoralised Spurs. Nobody can say what may have happened but from the game I watched Spurs looked comfortable, indeed Redknapp stated he expected us to go on and win by more. However, the penalty changed the course of the contest and it should never have been allowed to do so. That is why it stinks of corruption to me, not because it was criminal or sinister but because the official was influenced by more than the actual incident itself. That is why it was wrong and why technology has to come in to stop it happening again. For heavens sake, it is hard enough getting a win at Old Trafford at the best of times, we have had 2 wins taken off us there in the last 3 seasons through ridiculous officials.
Anyway thats enough, the game is over.
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| Quote Stirlingshire Saint="Stirlingshire Saint"Absolutely appalled by that at OT yesterday. As a Spurs fan, I honestly felt the game was safe and Utd wouldn't score, I even thought we would have gone on to win by more. However it was clearly obvious that had Utd got one then it was going to be difficult. They didn't look like getting one prior to the most corrupt decision I have seen at a football match.
Webb yesterday effectively gave Utd the win and the title by an appalling decision. I honestly believe it smells of corruption it was that bad. Gomes clearly knocked the ball away, the ball changed direction for heavens sake. It wasn't a tough call to make, it was obvious. Just appalled at that, how on earth can anybody take this game seriously when decisions like that are made ? I turned the game off as soon as the penalty went in because it was clear what was coming afterwards, Webb should be made to make a public apology to Tottenham, Liverpool and the rest of the Premier League. Scandalous it was.'"
Wow. If you're lucky, no-one will put the above pile of crap in their sig. He got the decision wrong, it happens. Probably better to just accept that. Failing that, you could just cry about it.
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| Quote Stirlingshire Saint="Stirlingshire Saint"I'm not convinced about the human error or the evening out theory.
Decisions are consistently made at the top clubs which have a negative influence on the opposition, the non giving of a penalty when it is blatant, the giving of a penalty when it isn't a penalty, a harsh sending off etc etc. These are undoubtedly influenced by the fear of Fergie, Wenger etc (but particularly at OT where Fergie picks and chooses his officials, one poor decision against Fergie and you don't ref at OT again) and this is corruption, not in the criminal sense but still a corrupt side to the game. It may be a conspiracy theory but it has ample evidence when it comes to Utd and Old Trafford. There is a whole list of incidents where the officiating has strangely helped Utd get a result at OT with Fergie.
It is about time technology is brought in so a side can question a pathetic decision such as yesterday.'"
So, once again, you ignore the fact that decisions go against the top clubs as well.
Yep. It's all just a shocking conspiracy to keep the little clubs down and hand United the title.
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