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Pat Richards
Amos Roberts
Karl Pryce
George Carmont
Sean Ainscough

Sam Tomkins
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Andy Coley

Harrison Hansen
Joel Tomkins

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Gareth Hock
Feka Paleaasina
Eamon O'carroll

I have gone for impact off the bench.
If Karl Pryce was close to playing against Leeds than he must be ready. He should offer more at centre than Phil Bailey, who had a poor game against Leeds.
Andy Coley has improved in the last 2 weeks and I would start him against his former club.

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Quote: cadoo "Pat Richards
Amos Roberts
Karl Pryce
George Carmont
Sean Ainscough

Sam Tomkins
Thomas Leuluai

Stuart Fielden
Michael McIlorum
Andy Coley

Harrison Hansen
Joel Tomkins

Sean O'loughlin
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Gareth Hock
Feka Paleaasina
Eamon O'carroll

I have gone for impact off the bench.
If Karl Pryce was close to playing against Leeds than he must be ready. He should offer more at centre than Phil Bailey, who had a poor game against Leeds.
Andy Coley has improved in the last 2 weeks and I would start him against his former club.'"


Swap McIlorum and Riddell, Lockers and Joel and your just about bang on for me

I think Prescott deserves a run but Coley has improved in the last couple of weeks so it would be harsh to drop him. Dropping O'Carroll would probably knock his confidence eventhough I think he could do with a weeks rest

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I would be happy with that team.

I would like to see some others get a chance though.

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Quote: kirkamania6 "Swap McIlorum and Riddell, Lockers and Joel and your just about bang on for me

I think Prescott deserves a run but Coley has improved in the last couple of weeks so it would be harsh to drop him. Dropping O'Carroll would probably knock his confidence eventhough I think he could do with a weeks rest'"


I have gone for impact off the bench and I believe Riddell would have a greater impact off the bench than McIlorum. It is something different I would like to see us try.

The only reason I haven't swapped Lockers and Joel is because both have been going well in recent weeks and I wouldn't want to change the team around too much.

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Quote: cadoo "I have gone for impact off the bench and I believe Riddell would have a greater impact off the bench than McIlorum. It is something different I would like to see us try.

The only reason I haven't swapped Lockers and Joel is because both have been going well in recent weeks and I wouldn't want to change the team around too much.'"


I don't think Riddell is an impace hooker. I think he is best from the start, controlling the ruck and getting our forwards on the front foot for McIlorum to hopefully carry on

As for Lockers and Joel I just think that Lockers is more suited to 2nd row and Joel is better at loose icon_smile.gif

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I would go with

Pat Richards
Amos Roberts
George Carmont
Karl Pryce
Sean Ainscough

Sam Tomkins
Tim Smith

Stuart Fielden
Thomas Leuluai
Paul Prescott

Harrison Hansen
Sean O'loughlin

Joel Tomkins

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Lee Mossop
Feka Paleaasina
Eamon O'carroll

would give Smith a run out at S.H. would leave Coley out and give Prescott a run out also leave Hock out as i think he is still carrying the knock he got to his hip and could do with him fully fit for Hudderfield move Lockers to S.R. and Joel to L.F.

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Quote: Coventry Warrior! "Richards
Roberts
Pryce
Carmont
Ainscough
Tomkins
Smith
Fielden
Riddell
Coley
Hansen
Lockers
Tomkins

Tommy
Feka
O'Carroll
Hock'"


swap pryce for bailey, the reson being i dont think he is that good defensivly that he can stop talou, other than that its a good team, i agree on smith being in at 7 i dont think tommy will be to ed off at cumin on as a sub, salford will tire quickly i think

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I wouldn't be surprised to see O'Carroll getting a well deserved rest this week and Prescott getting a game.

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I would not play Tim Smith. Is his defense going to get any better just because we have moved him to scrum half? No he will still be a liability.

Should we bring back Tim Smith we will have had Smith/Leuluai , O'loughlin/Leuluai , Tomkins/Leuluai, Tomkins/Smith so far this season as our halfback combinations after only six games. How can we form a successful halfback combination when we keep changing it every other week?

I think we need consistency in that department and allow Leuluai and Tomkins to understand each other to gain a bit of cohesion in attack. Notice the 2 most successful teams have not changed their halfback combinations for a number of years - McGuire/Burrow & Pryce/Long. We should be looking to do the same.

Unless Tomkins or Leuluai are injured I don't see a reason to bring back Tim Smith.

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Quote: cadoo "I would not play Tim Smith. Is his defense going to get any better just because we have moved him to scrum half? No he will still be a liability.
Should we bring back Tim Smith we will have had Smith/Leuluai , O'loughlin/Leuluai , Tomkins/Leuluai, Tomkins/Smith so far this season as our halfback combinations after only six games. How can we form a successful halfback combination when we keep changing it every other week?

I think we need consistency in that department and allow Leuluai and Tomkins to understand each other to gain a bit of cohesion in attack. Notice the 2 most successful teams have not changed their halfback combinations for a number of years - McGuire/Burrow & Pryce/Long. We should be looking to do the same.

Unless Tomkins or Leuluai are injured I don't see a reason to bring back Tim Smith.'"


so if we dont give him game time (by the way reserves is a lil too easy for him seeing as he made a mockery out of leeds the other night) play him in the first team and keep him covered you gotta give him another chance

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Quote: kirkamania6 "I don't think Riddell is an impace hooker. I think he is best from the start, controlling the ruck and getting our forwards on the front foot for McIlorum to hopefully carry on '"


I think Michael McIlorum is more than capable of doing the things you have mentioned above. I don't think either Michael McIlorum or Mark Riddell are "impact hookers". I think only James Roby can offer that.

I just noticed that last season when we started Michael McIlorum for something like 7 weeks and we played a lot better as a team and won I think 6 out of those 7 games. I was just trying to get a bit of impact off the bench as I think Riddell out of the two could have the most impact.

I would be still be happy if we started with Riddell and kept McIlorum on the bench.

Quote: kirkamania6 "As for Lockers and Joel I just think that Lockers is more suited to 2nd row and Joel is better at loose
I agree but either Nobby doesn't seem to think so or Lockers & Joel feel better suited to their current places in the side.

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Pat Richards
Amos Roberts
Phil Bailey
George Carmont
Shaun Ainscough


Sam Tomkins
Thomas Leuluai

Stuart Fielden
Mark Riddell
Paul Prescott
Joel Tomkins
Gareth Hock
Sean O'Loughlin


Iafeta Paleaasenia
Mike McIllorum
Andy Coley
Harrison Hansen

18th man: Karl Pryce

we need to keep a settled squad to allow the lads to find some rhythm with each other, the only change I would make is letting eamon have a rest, the lad has took so much work over the last month and has definately been our best player so far.

I was tempted to put Pryce in and drop bailey but we missed Phil against Cas, he is a leader and it is evident to see he is one of them players who will give his all, I think Karl will be waiting until we get an injury to be honest.

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Quote: Legend That Sorts It "so if we dont give him game time (by the way reserves is a lil too easy for him seeing as he made a mockery out of leeds the other night) play him in the first team and keep him covered you gotta give him another chance'"


Why do we have to give him another chance? Has he earnt it?

I posted a while back that after 7 months out of the game he needs time to recapture his tackling technique because his current technique is awful. He also looked unfit as well to play the full 80 minutes. He kept telling Roberts to come inside and allow Smith to get a breather on the wing.

Unless this has changed he should not be playing.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I wouldn't be surprised to see O'Carroll getting a well deserved rest this week and Prescott getting a game.'"


Good call.

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