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| Quote: NickyKiss "To be fair to Bradford Hudson wasn't Hock and at the end of the day it comes down to how good these players are alot of the time.
If your a bit part squad player you'll get binned abit like Reardon did at Wire but if your a frontline player you'll more then likely get kept on.
I've made my points before on Hock, he's been daft and he'll get the punishment he deserves but as long as there is some remorse and a few guarentees about future conduct i'd stock by him.
That doesn't mean we continue to pay his wages but keep his registration and offer him some form of promise of a deal for when he's back aslong as he sticks by the rules we set for him.'"
Agreed
From now untill the bans end if he cant show remorse and a full turn around in attitude then i agree we should get rid..but we need to let him prove himself before locking the door on him.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "To be fair to Bradford Hudson wasn't Hock and at the end of the day it comes down to how good these players are alot of the time.
If your a bit part squad player you'll get binned abit like Reardon did at Wire but if your a frontline player you'll more then likely get kept on.
I've made my points before on Hock, he's been daft and he'll get the punishment he deserves but as long as there is some remorse and a few guarentees about future conduct i'd stock by him.
That doesn't mean we continue to pay his wages but keep his registration and offer him some form of promise of a deal for when he's back aslong as he sticks by the rules we set for him.'"
Good post, totally agree.
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| Quote: ads7fax "I think if every player in pro rugby in England was tested tomorrow we wouldnt have many games played this weekend'"
A sad but very true fact.
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| Quote: JTB "A sad but very true fact.'" Total balls!!
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| Quote: sgtwilko "Total balls!!'"
Maybe a fortnight ago.
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| Quote: sgtwilko "Total balls!!'"
Two of your players would have failed a test last week - good job they didn't play eh?
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| Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "Two of your players would have failed a test last week - good job they didn't play eh?'" Dont be stupid!! Silly boy
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| Quote: sgtwilko "Dont be stupid!! Silly boy'"
Spot the person who doesn't know what's happening at their club.
Tut tut.
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| Quote: Wigan/Leeds Andy "Spot the person who doesn't know what's happening at their club.
Tut tut.'" yeah whatever mate!! Look at you tony montana!! I didn't say nobody at Leeds might get off their head! I just think a lot of players don't! You are just purley speculating about bailey and disco!! And at Leeds we have more t-totals born again Christians and stay at home family blokes than any other club!! The big Fu#ck ups at Leeds have been moved or let go!! Tut tut like you are inthe know!!
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| Has the result of the B Sample been announced?
Thought it was meant to be today?
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| Quote: sgtwilko "yeah whatever mate!! Look at you tony montana!! I didn't say nobody at Leeds might get off their head! I just think a lot of players don't! You are just purley speculating about bailey and disco!! And at Leeds we have more t-totals born again Christians and stay at home family blokes than any other club!! The big Fu#ck ups at Leeds have been moved or let go!! Tut tut like you are inthe know!!'"
Looks like I've hit a nerve - and yes I'm obviously more in the know than you and its not even my club.
Have you been around other clubs checking out the marital and religious status of their players?
Why are you mentioning Bailey and Diskin?
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| Quote: Saint Simon "so people who work in the community for the club are worthless? thats just wrong! all clubs have people who go to schools etc and teach kids about drugs in sport etc. who would be better than their fallen hero? there are lots of jobs in a SL club that dont involve rugby.'" Why should he get one of these jobs? That devalues the jobs. Why should somebody who his banned for taking coke (providing he is guity) be sent into the schools?
Is public speaking one of his skills? Is working with kids? Would parents be happy with a drug taker being sent into schools with their kids?
I wasn't the one devaluing community work, you were by suggesting that Hock should be given a job just because he was stupid enough to get caught taking drugs (providing the B Test is positive).
After 2 years somebody coming back and speaking to kids explaining the impact it had on their lives may be a good thing, but tbh if he is kept employed by Wigan, well that doesn;t look too bad to the kids does it!!!
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| Quote: Panda Antics "Has the result of the B Sample been announced?
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Only being tested today. Results probably next week.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "
If your a bit part squad player you'll get binned abit like Reardon did at Wire but if your a frontline player you'll more then likely get kept on.
That doesn't mean we continue to pay his wages but keep his registration and offer him some form of promise of a deal for when he's back aslong as he sticks by the rules we set for him.'" Your first point isn;t that accurate. Reardon was our first choice fullback, who got injured so missed much of last year. He retained the number 1 shirt for this year, and would have been a key part of the squad without injuries and off field issues.
Agree with your 2nd point, and that may be the way to get him to focus and sort himself out for the next couple of years.
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| Although it's wrong to take drugs and I'm a Leyther, I can't help but feel sorry for Hock, he cleary can't do anything else other than play rugby. There is no way he will be able to get a job, the guy can't string a sentance together but only time will tell what the results are and how Wigan react to the results.
There's no doubting his ability, but at the height of his career when we're seeing him become a fine, fine player he's only got himself (and no doubt his circle of friends) to blame for his errors.
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