I agree. We were better with Hankinson in the side last week. I’m not at all convinced by Bibby and he really needs to up his game.
Marshy has been superb but had a shocker today. There’s a god should for Hank and Budgie on the flank if today is anything to go by.

Marshall went for glory when he made that break had Farrell on the inside as well as Hastings triad to go round and got found out.

I wouldn't go as far to say they were the better team but they had a real good crack at us. Looking at it objectively though their three tries all came from Wigan mistakes (2 x loose pass full lengthers and the kick to the corner dropped ball from Marshall).

The ruck is a worry for me, too many yards made with Wigan players running back facing their own line and getting caught out (taught in schools at 7 year old to run facing the opposition). Offloads remain a big issue, discipline and our field kicking from Tommy.

Other than that I'm not going to be TOO critical, we got the win and we never needed to really get out of 2nd gear again.

One last thing I will mention is the 3rd man running in at the legs problem we had a number of years ago, seemed to be creeping back into our game which isn't needed
(Flower on report so may lose him for a match, would have to have a look at it again).

Wins a win though.

Won’t be watching that one again! Fair play to HKR with there mountain of injuries ( and more in this game)

Havard the main highlight for me, need a massive spell and was very very good. Should keep his place.

Bibby struggled with SKD, I’d give Hank another go next week.

Smith to get a start.

Flower to get a ban.

Was waiting for this type of comment. There’s a difference for me and that’s Marshall having money in the bank. His form has been excellent for weeks and also for weeks at the back end of last season. In comparison Burgess has been off colour for a similar amount of time, after starting last season pretty well.

Burgess didn’t just have one off game, he had a number of them over a few months. If Marshall keeps today’s form up for a few weeks then we have a question but I doubt he will.

Truly awful performance, attitude seemed off from the start, apart from the result I don't see how anybody could take any positives from that.
Back to square one after the last couple of weeks improvement, not 100% sure who it was who got put on report (Flower ?) but they can expect a ban, looked awful from my angle.

Outstanding, absolutely outstanding. A spell of about 55 minutes in one go and he looked as fresh at the end as he did at the start.

You can tell why the England academy beat Australia with guys like him, Smith and Smithies I’m there.

Sounds like over confidence to me. Nothing a good dressing down wouldn’t solve. Dropping him is completely disproportionate IMO. He’s been far and out our best winger and deserves his place. If that form or show boating continues then there’s an argument for it.

Really pleased to hear Havard has a stormer. I remember watching him v the Aussies and they were absolutely terrified of him. Seems he has found his feet in SL, long may it continue.

Today for me showed where we are at
Hard to beat but not championship standard
Too slow and not enough grunt up front
Still an improvement on last year
Thought Havard was good and deserved his place

I’d make George Burgess play 80 minutes for the reserves for the next few weeks and make his lungs burn. He’s in dire need of that sort of pain if he wants to become a top line prop rather than a parody of a marquee prop

Stop protecting the guy and make him earn his corn

Thought HKR were very decent and light years ahead of Toronto. Good honest performance from those guys

Agreed. Be the semi finals again I think

Tries from today's game: https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... sedit-1m2t

Tries from today's game: https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... sedit-1m2t

Think we need to look closely at how we use Smith and Leuluai. It’s night and day our kicking game when Leuluai is on compared to Smith. Tommy has been a great servant but there’s no room for sentiment. Lam is picking a really young front row, which in turn makes it hard to put a young scrum half in.

We’re still searching for our best team for me but Lam seems further away from knowing it than the fans do.

Marshall kept being left in 2 on one situations by Bibby. In the second half Hardaker and Bibby swapped sides to strengthen our left side defense. Hankinson should come in for Bibby next week.

Yeah that sounds about right for me,. Marshall had a poor game by his current high standards, but dropping him seems like an overreaction. Wasn't great, but we never looked like losing. On the upside, we always look like we had a try in us in attack, and we haven't always been able to say that lately.

I agree with you on this, however we need to be making it into the opposition 40 for this to count.