Nothing precious about it and the thread going to 9/10 pages shows how much it is disliked. Swearing in the wrong context is ignorant, bad mannered, threatening and disrespectful. As someone has already mentioned, you can understand a sudden emotional outpouring of effing following a foul or something but a contrived song, sung by a few hundred is out of order. Anyone with a mental age above 15 should understand this, hence no swearing on this or many other forums.

For people to say how can the club stop it, well they quite rightly found a way to stop racist and homophobic chanting.

So, playing Devil's advocaat, how would everyone feel about a chant with the 'C' word in it? Happy to join, in or is that all part and parcel of the game?

I don't think there are any chants that mention Cas. Horrible word though.

what makes a swear word actually a swear word ? who decided that a swear word should be a swear word. and at what point in history did what we know class as a swear word today become a swear word..i have always wondered what makes a swear word a swear word every time a use a swear word or hear a swear word...swear word.

Its not big and its not clever. It is not tolerated on these boards, and everybody is fine with that. So why should it be ok in the ground ?

The answer would probably be different for each word. It's strange that a lot of swear words refer to things that are completely natural with regards to humans and their nature. F**k, c**t, s**t, d*ck, tw*t, w**ker. Seems to have a lot to do with a bizarre prudishness with regards to sex and bodily functions.

Why those words are deemed more offensive than a word like torture which describes something awful and despicable I'll never know. To me it doesn't make much sense.

I'm not sure whether the words censored with asterisks will be allowed. If they are then it's a bit weird because people know what the word is and they still read it as if the word was there. A newspaper could get away with swearing using asterisks and it's commonly used to censor words. It still conveys the same meaning though. What if someone wrote the words f-c-u-k? C-n-u-t? Would it still be offensive because it's conveying the same meaning, or is it the spelling that's offensive? What if someone replacing the swear word with a similar sounding word? Is fluck off offensive?

Why is f*** offensive but 'coitus' not when they have the same meaning? Why is excrement fine but s*** is terrible when used to describe the same thing?

I surely can't be the only person who thinks the whole idea of 'swear words' is completely ridiculous and nonsensical.

Last year I used a free ticket to watch Wigan Athletic v Fulham and was sat in the East stand, close to the opposition fans of the North Stand. The continuous bad language and gesticulations of some Wigan fans aimed at the Fulham fans was deplorable. I came home and told my family that I'm glad rugby league isn't like that. It really was sickening. I won't be ging again, free or not.
I couldn't make the Saints game because I was in London so I don't know what the chanting was like but where I sit in the West stand I don't hear bad language. There is no need for it. It's commonplace, as is littering and using mobile phones whilst driving but it's wrong.

It's flipping ridiculous.

This is to the original poster.. Where have you been over the years.. The songs we sing have always had these words. .. I have a 9yr old who has watched Wigan home n away from 3 weeks.. She knows the words are swearing but sings her own words instead.. As she knows she isn't allowed to say them... I don't like them much myself but am not going to complain about the odd word..all you need to do is tell your kids they will hear naughty words and should ignore them.. Worked for my daughter.

I think your right although i can only tell it as i saw it from my seat in the East stand - i was very close to the bunch of Saints fans that were stood up at the back of the East stand.

Before the game started there was some banter but nothing too bad, all that changed once the first try had been scored. A number of Saints fans at the back were pretending to hang themselves and were clearly directing this towards the Wigan fans who were also in the East - to me this was far worse than any of the swearing that has been mentioned. The 'hanging' gestures clearly incensed the Wigan fans that saw it including myself, how this did not turn into a far more serious situation i will not know but i have little doubt that things will get worse before they get better.

There was a couple of Wigan supporters in front of me that were taking pictures of the Saints crowd when this was happening although i have no idea where these pictures will end up.

Dany1979 yes I agree with your version of events. The Wigan fan who got turfed out was equally as provocative though as anything the Saints fans did. My point is that bad behaviour and language by both sets of fans will escalate if not nipped in the bud.

Just a foot note to my first post... As a parent if I thought someone was going to far with either swearing or aggression .. I WOULD TELL THEM.. and anyone who knows me will tell you .. I have done.. But I'm realistic enough to know you will NEVER erradicate swearing or aggressive banter ... We are going to watch two teams go to battle .. Not a garden party at Buckingham Palace.. Lets get some perspective here .. It's not constant swearing and half the time you can't make out the words. The bigger deal you make of it the worse some will become.. Because some idiots will take matters into their own hands. If you are offended .. Move or if not possible ask them to tone it down..

As for the idiot sts fans pretending to hang themselves.. Was that a disgusting dig at Terry Newton? The same morons who booed his minutes silence

so have racist chants until a few years ago.
but times have changed

theres a warning given out over the speakers before every game...simple....do as it asks...dont use obscene or racist language and it'll be fine

If this is true, whoever took the pictures should post them on here and hopefully other saints fans will name and shame them. Disgusting. Why are we even talking about swearing when saints fans were doing that? Certainly puts it into perspective.

Wigan pie man .. Swearing isn't aimed at a person because of the colour of their skin.. Racism and swearing are a completely separate issue and should not be compared.