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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"c020.gif'"
Is that your reading teacher patting you on the head after you learned what "per game" meant?
Congrats.
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| Quote gunit2k9="gunit2k9"First names on a Super League dream team or even a England team.... bet its not Wilkin'"
But it isn't Lockers either, is it?
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"Is that your reading teacher patting you on the head after you learned what "per game" meant?
Congrats.'"
 you do realise Lockers has been injured in quite a few games this year and not played all the games. I think the stat you are looking for is minutes played. Dear lord 
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| Bet you Lockers is one of them, along with Sam and Roby
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"icon_lol.gif you do realise Lockers has been injured in quite a few games this year and not played all the games. I think the stat you are looking for is minutes played. Dear lord
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I do realise that, he's played in 22 SL games to Wilkin's 19, hence my use of "per game". The only reasonable way of comparing, unless you use the Pieman "just count everything up regardless of games played" approach. Which is a little used method with limited merit, but you seem to like it so you go for it sunshine.
If you would you like to go through the meaning of "per game" again, let me know.
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"I do realise that, he's played in 22 SL games to Wilkin's 19, hence my use of "per game". The only reasonable way of comparing, unless you use the Pieman "just count everything up regardless of games played" approach. Which is a little used method with limited merit, but you seem to like it so you go for it sunshine.
If you would you like to go through the meaning of "per game" again, let me know.'"
So if you realise that why do you keep ignoring it. Minutes played please....to back up your stats
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| FTV,
Do you honestly believe that Wilkin is a better player than O'Loughlin?
I'm only asking because the likes of Nathan Brown has openly stated that he believes that O'Loughlin is the best player in this country and doesn't get the accolades he deserves.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"FTV,
Do you honestly believe that Wilkin is a better player than O'Loughlin? '"
I think Jon Wilkin has had a better 2011 so far than SOL - that is the point I'm making. Whether that is because SOL is being held back within Wigan's current system is another question.
The suggestion of SOL for MoS this season is just daft, he's not even close to the reckoning. That is the only reason I made the comparison: we're talking about the 2011 MoS.
p.s. you know my views on SOL - he's a cracking player.
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| The point in all this is Saints are far too reliant on people like Wilkin to be at the top of their game for the vast majority of the time than we are of Sean. There's only one player of the two who would be selected by the huge majority of the coaches in the league I'm sure.
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| In all fairness, wilkin has been very good this season, I’ve always thought he was pretty to be honest but this season he has proven me wrong. Don’t think he should be an England 2nd row forward, but only because we have such good 2nd row options.
But would I have him over O’Loughlin? I’d rather stab myself in the d!ck with broken glass tbh
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| Surprisingly I actually agree with FTV on this one. Wilkin is having a better season than Lockers, he's not the better player overall that's obvious. But Wilkin is having a very good 2011. Whilst Lockers has been a little too defensively orientated this year IMO. Very little of the attacking plays this year are going through Sean, even those superb over head passes out to the wings haven't been utilized as much by him this year.
Although can I just add I'm still of the opinion that Wilkin goes missing in big games, but that's for another day. 
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