Its gone past banter its become bickering.

Fair enough if you were working, i take back my previous comment. But if all the wiganers on here that are commenting were working, then there not doing a very good job are they. I have a job, i pay taxes, but i don't work weekends and as such i'm free to come on here as and when i like once i clock out. So don't make assumptions.

Luvky bugger not working weekends but i manage to have most if not all Friday nights off.

Suppose that can be a positive when you play friday nights. Not always the case though i suppose.

Haven't read the whole thread, but am i the only one who thought the sending off was a bit harsh? Tomkins was on his way down when Raynor swung (i think he was trying to go for the ball)...

No pal, was a straight red. SOS for me but a red nonetheless.

Raynor tried to dislodge the ball, got it wrong.
Red card was very harsh.

Can anyone who disagrees come up with a reason why Raynor would do it intentionally?

I'm not 100% it was intentional, only Raynor will truly know whether it was or not. However, it was a hard contact with the head, poorly judged or not, and was a red card offence.

Something earlier in the game perhaps, we can only speculate



Accident or not its a sending off with probably a ban to follow for a terrible attempt at a 'tackle'

I think you will find the word "reckless" used by Redhall... Nuff said.

Morleys against the Aussies was a red, this wasn't.
Ganson had to ask where the contact was. Everything like this looks a lot worse in slow motion.
Raynor spent a lot of years at my club and I've met him a few times. Believe me, it would not have been intentional.

You know him, I don't, happy to take your word for that. However, that was a serious contact to the nose/chops with a swinging arm, therefore a red card imo.

Re Ganson, he was viewing from behind so sought clarity as to what happened; rightly so.

Intent is irrelevant. He made contact with the head with a clenched fist resulting in a player being knocked out. Red.