Id say last year we were short 3 props, and only had one prop the whole game (Prescott) therefore the game was always going to be an uphill struggle, against 4 wire props. I was pretty happy with the performance overall last year

This year was just a lacklustre performance, the backs and forwards were outplayed by a more eager 1-17 who had the right game plan

Sounds to me like, in Lima, you guys are expecting the barnstorming runs of Feka (before he's knackered for the next 35 mins), combined with the outrageous handling (dummy/offload) abilities of the likes of Hock, Lauititi (sp?) & Solomona, and with the durability (80 mins) of Fielden/Westwood. And add to that you want the metres gained & toughness of Morley/Graham/Peacock.

It's a hell of a lot to ask of a player, no matter how big his reputation or salary is.

Well played to Warrington, they showed desire and great execution of plays.

No excuses from the Wigan end, we where caught wanting by a better team on the day.

Cant agree more, our grand final isnt won on 25th March. albeit you would think some teams are from certain reactions

Really disapointed last night wire was better team
just watched game again and if fairness was at the rfl
Westwood would get a game ban for striking same as yeman
and higham did a "chickin wing" takle simlar to the one Lima got done for in the takle we got a penalty for ball stealing can't remember who against

personally don't think they are bans and neither were the previous but what we have all been asking for from rfl is consitancy

I hate to say it but as I said last year when Warrington play to their full potential they are as good, if not better, than any side in Super League. Up until this season they always lacked consistency and suffered from stupid collapses. This now seems to have changed and they will be the team to be this season.

Way too early to push the panic button. Wigan haven't really been hitting top form in their games this season, we look off the pace for some reason. Possibly the injuries, possibly the pre-season. I don't know why.

Warrington are hitting the straps early and the result on Friday was a fair reflection of this.

I honestly think we will have cranked up another couple of gears by September. I actually think we are a lot better than we were last year. A lot.

I knew he was going to struggle to live up to the hype when I saw him at Cardiff. He's nowhere near as big as I thought he'd be, which is a problem for a prop. He's a good player to have in the rotation without doubt, but he's not the game changer we thought we were signing.

That was only our sixth game of the season. Finch's first, Pat hasn't played yet. Joel to return next week with Fielden and Hock later in the year. That's a lot of quality off the park and to return.

We played poorly and MM said 50% completion in the 2nd half. I was told 62% overall. You won't beat anyone with figures like those!

If the lads have a good week training and play their normal away game they have every chance of a win at Leeds.
These three games were always going to be difficult with all the injuries and suspensions. We have won one and lost one with one to play. Two out of three would be a very accepable return bearing in mind our absentees.
We beat Huddersfield who didn't play badly. Warrington won and deservedly so. Just my thoughts but I watched the HKR v Hudds game last night. Hudds wouldn't have beaten Warrington last night had they had them instead of HKR.

There's a long way to go in the season and Friday's was only our sixth game.

Copy and paste-tastic, bloody hell Wigans version of Dally, how many times have you posted that comment ?

I am begining to think I have my own little fan club or even some wire stalkers.

Obesessed.

I agree. Lima is still a decent player to have in the 17 but lacks the size to be the big enforcer prop that I was looking for. None of Fielden, Prescott, Lima and Coley are that big in prop terms. They are all quite lean and are certainly dwarfed by the props of teams like Warrington.

it take imports a good few months to hit form, which is why I am not worried at all, Lima and Finch will do well and the Hoff will be totally awesome.

add back into the mix Fielden, Hock, Joel, Richards, Farrell and we will be ok

You cant win long term with kids and on Friday the mix of kids to experienced pros was too great.

I cant believe no-one is discussing how poor Hallibert was (I know that he is always poor, but that does not excuse his performance on Friday). He is not fit to ref an amateur game. In no way did it affect the result but he shouldnt be allowed near a SL game ever.

just remember most wire fans wanted Mike Monaghan and Matt King on the first Qantas flights from Manchester a while back, keep the faith.

TBH I think we really missed Fielden, Joel, Deacon, Pat, Gleeson & Piggy. We do look a little lost at Dummy Half, but if we can keep Deacon & Finch fit, & move Tommy into 9, we should be ok. Our kicking game needs to improve massively also, we don't keep pressure on in the last 3rd cause our kicking is so poor.

Also I feel that we need to address the RH side, I think Marsh & Goulding isn't a good combination, they are not particularly tall or good denfensively. I don't know why but I have often thought Gleeson made Goulding look good?? Not too sure what anyone else thinks????