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| Quote snowie="snowie"I know its rife everywhere Adam Walker at Wakey got 2 yr ban and sacked from Trinity for cocaine'"
I think that's what most, if not all, are saying on here mate. I doubt many take issue with the gist of what Carney is saying. It's just the way he takes aim soley at Wigan when he, better than most, knows it's a game wide issue. It's sensationalism at it worst and moreso when you take on board that he was guilty of comparable misdemeanours during his own playing career.
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| Bobbie Goulding has weighed into Carney on Twitter & Facebook calling him a hypocrite.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"It’s mental. Each year it’s got worse certain gangs of lads seem to want to just get wrecked as soon as possible... ie From midday onwards. I’m swerving it this year.'"
It’s not so much the drug that bothers me it’s more the group of lads who seem to take it and want eveyone to know about it. I personally have a couple of mates who use it fairly regular and you wouldn’t know they were on it,apart from the fact they stay fairly sober and they can keep drinking longer, waste of money if you ask me.
I’ll stick to alcohol which imo is probably a worse drug but legal and a damn site cheaper!
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| Just legalise the stuff and tax it heavily as per alcohol and tobacco. Job done.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Bobbie Goulding has weighed into Carney on Twitter & Facebook calling him a hypocrite.'"
Never saw Goulding as a player, but as a kids coach I saw him threaten a kid, get sent off by the ref, then threaten to destroy the young refs career if he reported it. Thoroughly odious man, regardless of the image he now presents on social media.
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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"Just legalise the stuff and tax it heavily as per alcohol and tobacco. Job done.'"
That’s like making murder legal to ease pressure on prisons.
Then at the other end of the spectrum if your clamp down harder you risk allowing another drug to come in and take its place like legal highs did eg bubble, meow meow, spice.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Never saw Goulding as a player, but as a kids coach I saw him threaten a kid, get sent off by the ref, then threaten to destroy the young refs career if he reported it. Thoroughly odious man, regardless of the image he now presents on social media.'"
Yeah, I'm not sure that Goulding is someone you want as your spokesman. Besides, if you read his words, he's defending the players, not Wigan - which is the wrong way around.
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| Yeah people are giving stick to Goulding but he’s not the one preaching like Carney has. His point is that he doesn’t believe Carney was ‘squeaky clean’ himself (therefore a hypocrite) although he does agree with his sentiment.
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| I haven't wanted to comment directly on this one because when drink driving, drug use and/or violence are involved in a topic I think it can really stoke emotion inside people that have had experiences of it. I would not want to preach to someone who lost a love one to a drink/drug driver or maybe a loved one to drug abuse. Even someone who has experienced a violent assault or verbal abuse may take offence to anything said in defense. It is human nature.
However, a very good friend of mine is a Police officer with GMP, he has said on several occasions through 7 years of traffic policing, in 90% of the roadside stoppages he performs when alchohol/drugs are suspected he is still surprised when he first approaches the vehicle...he said the split is fairly even between men/women but what surprises him most is the fact that in a far more cases than we would want to believe the occupations are quite discouraging, GP's/solicitors, surgeons/politicians, teachers and even fellow Police Officers are just as frequent as your let us say, lesser jobs or even Sports personalities. So my point, although long winded is that whilst our boys should know better, and the disappoint us, they are a small fraction of what is an alarming problem for society on the whole, no matter what warnings are offered or given human beings will always cock-up and make bad decisions.
I am in no way condoning what any of the above mentioned players have done but we must as humans understand that for the years behind us and for many years ahead of us that this cycle will continue. Educating the young players on the dangers of driving whilst under the influence of either alcohol or drugs is all that can be done by the club, examples must be made. Whilst Zak and young Mullen are punished by a driving ban and a financial penalty, they must be made to understand that in both cases the end result could of been far worse with the loss of a life.
Regards all sports personalities and drug use, there is very little chance Cocaine will ever be eradicated, given its stimulant similarities to the performance enhancing workout powders/drinks that supplement companies produce (yes Musclepharm included) that they are recommended to use for training and game day, it is very addictive and is a social influencer, in most cases now within groups of socialites it is almost laughable when someone refrains from using.
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| Quote RichieS="RichieS"I haven't wanted to comment directly on this one because when drink driving, drug use and/or violence are involved in a topic I think it can really stoke emotion inside people that have had experiences of it. I would not want to preach to someone who lost a love one to a drink/drug driver or maybe a loved one to drug abuse. Even someone who has experienced a violent assault or verbal abuse may take offence to anything said in defense. It is human nature.
However, a very good friend of mine is a Police officer with GMP, he has said on several occasions through 7 years of traffic policing, in 90% of the roadside stoppages he performs when alchohol/drugs are suspected he is still surprised when he first approaches the vehicle...he said the split is fairly even between men/women but what surprises him most is the fact that in a far more cases than we would want to believe the occupations are quite discouraging, GP's/solicitors, surgeons/politicians, teachers and even fellow Police Officers are just as frequent as your let us say, lesser jobs or even Sports personalities. So my point, although long winded is that whilst our boys should know better, and the disappoint us, they are a small fraction of what is an alarming problem for society on the whole, no matter what warnings are offered or given human beings will always cock-up and make bad decisions.
I am in no way condoning what any of the above mentioned players have done but we must as humans understand that for the years behind us and for many years ahead of us that this cycle will continue. Educating the young players on the dangers of driving whilst under the influence of either alcohol or drugs is all that can be done by the club, examples must be made. Whilst Zak and young Mullen are punished by a driving ban and a financial penalty, they must be made to understand that in both cases the end result could of been far worse with the loss of a life.
Regards all sports personalities and drug use, there is very little chance Cocaine will ever be eradicated, given its stimulant similarities to the performance enhancing workout powders/drinks that supplement companies produce (yes Musclepharm included) that they are recommended to use for training and game day, it is very addictive and is a social influencer, in most cases now within groups of socialites it is almost laughable when someone refrains from using.'"
Very interesting post - Im sure the mental health crisis in this country has a lot to do with more and more people turning to drink and drugs as a way of coping.
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| 30/40 years ago drink driving was seen as socially acceptable and was common place despite the obvious dangers. Nowadays, most people find it totally unacceptable and rightly so!
However, some of those same people see some use of recreational drugs as socially acceptable. It’s not.
The use of drugs socially is why levels of most serious violent crime are soaring. Shootings in inner cities are usually down to rival organised crime groups fighting over drug turf. Burglaries, robberies, theft of or from vehicles and mostly committed by people trying to fund drug habits, be it cocaine, heroin, cannabis, Khet etc isn’t relevant. The use of drugs in society is rife but completely at the heart of most criminality nationwide. There’ll be people who agree with me and people who don’t. I don’t know how or if we will ever stop it. It’s a debate that would take far too much time to have properly on a forum like this.
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| Spot on pal
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