The same one where his season didn't end, was only predicted to end due to being towards the end of the season and that injury being because he fell awkwardly and not because of the high shot? Come on, you can do better.

I don't know, hows Robbie McCormacks face?

I don't think Ben Flower posts on here - if he did you would have a point. Unless of course your point is that one which would embarrass a primary school pupil that you can't have an opinion on something because somebody who you have no control over did something a few years ago that has absolutely nothing to do with the incident now being discussed.

Which makes it ok then? Glad you cleared that up.

My point is that of ALL clubs, i find it incredulous that Wigan fans have the gall to call out cheap shots when the Macguire and Wane years have all been about going for players knees.

Add that to the Big Time Charlie 'glass' Bateman and McIlorums cheap shots - it makes it even more hypocritical.

Like I said PRIMARY SCHOOL argument. How dare someone have an opinion on something else because a player they have no control over did something completely unconnected - grow up.

For your information the general consensus on here from what I can remember was that Hohaia deserved that first punch (he did in fact get a ban for putting his forearm on Flower's face) but the 2nd punch was unforgivable and deserving of a lengthy ban. But that might get in the way of your extremely immature argument and way of thinking.

Stepping over the BS for a minute ( I'm not pointing fingers at either side). I hope Gildart makes a swift recovery.

Absolute state of this, just absolutely tragic. Poor lads been badly hurt in a nasty tackle and all you're ar*ed about is previous incidents from years ago and comparing players' history to one an another. Get a grip, fella or should i say ya little immature kid.

I'm in disbelief that anyone could put forward so stupid an argument. This would sound childish in a primary school playground! Good to see that the vast majority of Leeds fans are rational adults. I'd despair if this was the general level of debate. What next? My dad's bigger than yours?

Hope Olly is soon well and playing again. Unfortunately personal experience makes me fear the worst. Back injuries are rarely straight forward and this sounds like a bad one.

I hope Gildart makes a full recovery and Ferres is rightly banned. I do think Wigans medical team and coaching staff have questions to answer though regarding putting him back on the field for a couple of minutes after half time to ensure they didn't lose an interchange. If indeed that was the reason. What could have happened to Gildart if he had been required to make a tackle in the time he was on the field?
Although the extent of the injury was not known at that stage it was obvious to us at the game and tv viewers that he was in a lot of pain and should not have been on the pitch.

It doesn't make sense though, that's not how it works with interchanges.

According to the Wigan Evening Post t'other day, if Gildart hadn't come back on inside of 15 minutes (including HT) he wouldn't have been allowed back on at all, even if he was fit with 30 minutes to go. Can only assume he/Wigan didn't realise how bad his injury was and that he may have boon okay later on.

Quite.

I think you'll find the sheer vitriol towards Ferres by a section on here as equally childish. Let's hope that this isn't referred to when the next bad tackle happens. Like the infamous McGuire incident.

Speedy recovery to Gildart.

Gildart wanted to see if he could play through it, he jogged onto the pitch and realised he couldnt. Hardly surprising with the injury he has, but it just shows how tough rugby league players can be, sometimes to their detriment.

Any Leeds fan trying to defend Ferres need to have a word with themselves, it doesnt matter if we have had players in the past worse or better, the incident being discussed was an absolute shocker from someone with previous for crushers and spear tackles. 4-8 matches is nowhere near long enough for somebody who continually commits tackles that endanger others necks

Ferres might have broken a young lads back. BROKEN HIS FUCKING BACK!!!!!!!

Deserves everything he gets if true. In fact he deserves everything he gets just by risking it.

Id sooner have a punch of Flower than my neck and back being mangled any day of the week

Not many on here (if any) backed the Flower incident at all.
Whilst his first punch was forgivable (following Hohia's elbow into Flower's face), but the 2nd punch was totally uncalled for and unnecessary as he'd already laid him out.

Everyone on here agreed it was a straight red and deserved a long ban, which he received.
In fact, there were a significant number of Wigan fans calling for him to be sacked.


There's the difference.