The packs are very close like I said, I suppose when comparing the starting individuals they are nearly even, you've got the edge in Morley, Harrison and Westwood but the Giant's take the others, and like you say the Giants bench in just that little bit stronger. One of the reasons in which I don't think you'll get on top of them like you did us is due to the style the giants play, against us Morley and Carvell ran it in hard finding there feet quickly with Monaghan using the quick ball to exploit the unset markers and defensive line, however against the Giants they'll slow you down a lot, not allowing Morley and Carvell to get those quick play off the balls that Monaghan exploited so well against Wigan.

a lot depends on the ref if its Ganson he won't let them get away with it, siverwood mind...................

I was simply pointing out that your summation (big word there, not thick) of the wires chances might be coming from a person whose opinions are clouded by bitterness not somebody who is being completely subjective, and if you thought wigans pack could match the wires you clearly aren't.

2 of the top 4 forward packs.

In all honesty, i dont personally care who wins the final.
Sort Of Cheshire v Yawkshurr? Makes no difference to me [size[i(even though i do live in the pretty part of Cheshire these days!)[/i[/size
It aint us And it aint Saints - So it matters not one bit!

Why would anyone in the general public, i.e. not rugby league fans, care if Wigan and Saints are not there? Your question is a little mundane and pointless and tbh very disrespectful, why can't some fans from the so called "big four" not understand that this fixture demonstrates that rugby league may be becoming more competitive in this country, which can only be good for the game and it's profile

As a fan of Rugby League in general - Its difficult to argue your point 'cos you're dead right.
As a hard-hearted Wigan fan though - Losing to Dire in the Semi still sucks!

Wigan are no longer one of the "big four" mate, Think Kevin Costner, big in the ninetees but not getting any starring roles anymore and no one really cares or pays any attention to what he does anyway!

Then why are you on here.....??

how dare wigan fans compare themselfs with saints, leeds, bulls in the modern game your just another run of the mill rugby club your not as big as you think anymore

In the old days the rest of the country would have been much more interested in, and watched the final than nowadays. Lets face it, there wasnt much choice. It was either the CC Final or wrestling on ITV.

On 29th August i bet more people will be watching the football scores on SSN than the final. Their loss i suppose, but thats the way it is.

In all honesty i'd rather watch the football scores coming through than the Heineken Cp Final, but i bet when i was a lad, i'd have watched the RU Final as there was nowt else on.