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Quote: ~ No1 Saints Fan ~ "Moore is being groomed as the long-term replacement for Cunningham.'"


And what makes you think the same is not being done with Goulding are Saints the only team that look to do this icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Andy Greg "And what makes you think the same is not being done with Goulding are Saints the only team that look to do this Maybe for Carmont.

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Quote: ipsl_rl "I have heard that Goulding has been told that he either goes to Salford on loan for the rest of the year or he sits in the reserves.

He was told after the Barrow game - he will not play 1st team again this year!!'"


Well I hope it wasn't put to him in those terms "Go to Salford or else...."

That said a season playing under McRea could to him a world of good as he might in fact get some decent coaching.

If he has got any sense he would go to Salford and with a bit of luck when he comes back we will have a new coach anyway.

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Quote: ~ No1 Saints Fan ~ "Maybe for Carmont.'"


Maybe or Gleeson when he leaves or just for cover he is in Wigans long term plans and as far as i was told was never in the swap talks might have been offered on loan but was never going on a permanent bases.

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Quote: DaveO "That said a season playing under McRea could to him a world of good as he might in fact get some decent coaching.
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I'm sorry, run that by me again?

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Quote: ipsl_rl "I have heard that Goulding has been told that he either goes to Salford on loan for the rest of the year or he sits in the reserves.

He was told after the Barrow game - he will not play 1st team again this year!!'"


TBH when I heard Salford were looking for outside backs to loan, he was the first name I thought of in SL. It might do him the world of good, or merely expose the fact, he isn't as good as many believe him to be.

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Quote: AJ "I'm sorry, run that by me again?'"


It's all relative. Any coaching is better than none at all. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: DaveO "It's all relative. Any coaching is better than none at all.
icon_biggrin.gif Clever reply.

FWIW, maybe getting away from Noble might help him, they don't seem to click as a pairing, but when you see others such as Ainscough, Joel and O'Carroll and to some extent Sam & McIllorum who have under Noble, then surely it is only resonable to ask questions of Goulding as well.

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Quote: AJ "

Fair point but I honestly do not think Goulding has done much wrong for a young player when he has played to get the treatment he has had from Noble selection-wise.

You said yourself about Pryce thread the fans are quick to judge and I think this is the case with Goulding as well. Players develop at different rates and many were writing O'Carroll off last season for example.

As to Ainscough and Sam T it's early days yet and either of them could suffer the "2nd season syndrome" but at the moment Noble can't drop them but I feel Noble has blamed Goulding for others failings so I think he may thrive under a different coach. Any coach!

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I hope we keep him long-term. He is still only very young, and there's still a lot of improvement in him, I think people often forget this.

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The only reason they wont let Goulding leave is because he will be another player to join the long list of successful players who were brought through the ranks at Wigan.

They have been offered by 3 clubs transfer fee for him but you will never hear that!

Next stop..... rugby union????????

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Quote: ipsl_rl "The only reason they wont let Goulding leave is because he will be another player to join the long list of successful players who were brought through the ranks at Wigan.

They have been offered by 3 clubs transfer fee for him but you will never hear that!

Next stop..... rugby union????????'"


???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

So They want to let him go but don't want to let him go to save face even though they have been offered transfer fees by 3x different clubs?????

Your point is????

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Quote: ipsl_rl "The only reason they wont let Goulding leave is because he will be another player to join the long list of successful players who were brought through the ranks at Wigan.

They have been offered by 3 clubs transfer fee for him but you will never hear that!

Next stop..... rugby union????????'"


I refuse to believe we wouldn't accept a fee for him.

Was interesting that IL didn't mention him when he listed all our backs on the website interview.

Tells you all you need to know about Gouldings future.

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Quote: AJ "I refuse to believe we wouldn't accept a fee for him.

Was interesting that IL didn't mention him when he listed all our backs on the website interview.

Tells you all you need to know about Gouldings future.'"


Well it might and he did mention Phelps but I can't believe we would let Goulding go and retain Phelps.

If you look at Gouldings stats in 2008 they are not a lot far behind Gleesons (on average per number of games) which for a then 20 year old compared to an experienced international is pretty good. So far this season although not representative because of so few games played (only 2 by Goulding) his stats are [ibetter [/ithen Gleesons!

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Quote: DaveO "Well it might and he did mention Phelps but I can't believe we would let Goulding go and retain Phelps.'"


Goudling can only play centre, Phelps can play various positions, if he is low salary, that is why Phelps would be retained.

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