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Quote: sergeant pepper "Typical RL fan response.

Anyone can see the league is better with this strong Leigh side in it & that's all down to DB dipping into his pockets and paying for it. From a Wigan POV, we've had three big game type fixtures against them and they've been great. He's invested in the squad (Lam is fine player) and arguably, more importantly, he's invested in the atmosphere on game night too.

But yeah, he's an idiot that Leigh (& in turn SL) could do without. Let's go back to Leigh in the Championship.'"


So throwing your toys out the pram because a decision didn’t go your way is the correct response of a club owner. Need I remind you he pulled his money out once before. Don’t remember the last time IL did something like that. It’s amateurish, how is anyone going to take us seriously when owners are spouting this sh*te. Creating a league with his rich American and SA friends, didn’t work for Donald Trump it sure ain’t working for this tit. You’re a muppet for defending it.

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DB and the SKY people talk as if that disallowed try decided the game.

If Wigan had gone 12-10 down then they would have had to chase the game. Playing it tight up the middle would not have won us the game from behind. The last 15-20 mins Leigh looked shattered and were out on their feet. I don't think for one minute that they would have been able to stop Wigan's fast backs from scoring, and probably more than once.

Leigh have lost, they are still in the play offs from fourth, accept they have done well and get on with it.

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He’s a passionate man and a character.

He’s been very silly in his post match comment fuelled on emotion.

The reason he is such a character is because he is unpredictable and to be fair he has been a fantastic owner and built a team he and the town should be proud of.

Decisions go your way and they go against you. I’ve not seen him carrying on when they have gone for his club.

It wasn’t the right forum for him to express these views and he needs reminding of it.

The ref was consistent on the night on the 2 calls in the cold light of day he needs to realise that and retract his comments publicly given he chose to make them public.

Life is never dull with DM in SL and it’s a better place for it no doubt.

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Quote: WWste "So throwing your toys out the pram because a decision didn’t go your way is the correct response of a club owner. Need I remind you he pulled his money out once before. Don’t remember the last time IL did something like that. It’s amateurish, how is anyone going to take us seriously when owners are spouting this sh*te. Creating a league with his rich American and SA friends, didn’t work for Donald Trump it sure ain’t working for this tit. You’re a muppet for defending it.'"


Haha I'm the muppet, but yet you're bringing analogies with Trump into a debate about RL? Grow up.

DB has had more of a positive impact on SL than a negative one. Maybe every owner should be like the old Wakey, or current Cas ones instead. No one knows what they are called, no development plans, no ambition, vote against growth plans etc - just stay silent tho and you'll be ok.

Btw - yeah I do think he was right to comment. It was right for McManus to comment post CC final when they get done in by a bad decision and Leigh are right on this one. I wish IL/KR publicly challenged the RFL more.

They've got a voice and a platform, so why not use it. Don't keep silent, or nothing changes & god knows that self serving show called the RFL needs changing.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "

They've got a voice and a platform, so why not use it. Don't keep silent, or nothing changes & god knows that self serving poop show called the RFL needs changing.'"


I disagree on this point.

Most if not all owners and chairmen including our own are very vocal with the RFL.

They just chose to do it in the right forum in a professional way.

That is where DM has dropped the ball here.

He could have voiced his opinion without carrying on like this and raised it the correct way.

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Quote: jonh "I disagree on this point.

Most if not all owners and chairmen including our own are very vocal with the RFL.

They just chose to do it in the right forum in a professional way.

That is where DM has dropped the ball here.

He could have voiced his opinion without carrying on like this and raised it the correct way.'"


If the system worked, then I'd agree but it doesn't and nothing changes.

We've seen real change this season all driven by having an organisation outside of the RFL having a real say on things.

Things don't change if left to the RFL. Pressure needs to be put on them.

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A Leopard is for life not just for the super league season. Sounds like the pitch invasion from his fans hit a costly nerve.

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I really don’t get the love in for Beaumont this season. Fans hailing that he’s good for the game etc. this is a man who wilfully stopped paying his players and that video proves what an odious little man he really is

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Quote: jonh "He’s a passionate man and a character.

He’s been very silly in his post match comment fuelled on emotion.

The reason he is such a character is because he is unpredictable and to be fair he has been a fantastic owner and built a team he and the town should be proud of.

Decisions go your way and they go against you. I’ve not seen him carrying on when they have gone for his club.

It wasn’t the right forum for him to express these views and he needs reminding of it.

The ref was consistent on the night on the 2 calls in the cold light of day he needs to realise that and retract his comments publicly given he chose to make them public.

Life is never dull with DM in SL and it’s a better place for it no doubt.'"


The trouble with having characters is you can end up with someone like Koukash.

I'm not suggesting DB is of that ilk, but he certainly likes to put himself at the centre of every story.

He needs to start reining it in or he'll come unstuck at some point. He's already lost quite a bit of the goodwill that he's built up this season.

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Even with a clearly whopping ego, Derek has surprised plenty this year with his general sporting manner but it always felt like he’d been to the Jackson Hastings PR finishing school and the mask has slipped, which just makes me laugh tbh.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "If the system worked, then I'd agree but it doesn't and nothing changes.

We've seen real change this season all driven by having an organisation outside of the RFL having a real say on things.

Things don't change if left to the RFL. Pressure needs to be put on them.'"


Yep, real pressure generated from addressing your own fans threatening to pull out. Look at all the media coverage sunshine. It’s negative, it makes the sport look even more shoddier than it is. Go through the correct channels

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Quote: WWste "Yep, real pressure generated from addressing your own fans threatening to pull out. Look at all the media coverage sunshine. It’s negative, it makes the sport look even more shoddier than it is. Go through the correct channels'"


You seem to really not understand how media attention works. Positive, or negative it creates a response and gets people talking.

Again, you talk about the game being made to look shoddy but want to get rid of someone who puts his hand into his pockets.

Answer the question "sunshine" is he worse than the guys who own Cas?

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Quote: sergeant pepper "You seem to really not understand how media attention works. Positive, or negative it creates a response and gets people talking.

Again, you talk about the game being made to look shoddy but want to get rid of someone who puts his hand into his pockets.

Answer the question "sunshine" is he worse than the guys who own Cas?'"


Yea strapping a few fireworks to the stadium and putting a stage up doesn’t make you a better owner, considering his previous antics (not playing player and having Twitter rants) Cas have done what they’ve done. Maybe they don’t have enough money as Leigh but they’ve not made fools of themselves spouting crap. There you go fella there’s the answer. I’ll await you reply with some more crap you’ll spout

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I guess if you focus too much on the week that was, and not enough on the week that's coming, one of these very underwhelming performances can suddenly happen.

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Quote: Cruncher "I guess if you focus too much on the week that was, and not enough on the week that's coming, one of these very underwhelming performances can suddenly happen.'"

This. Plus the play offs is about managing energy through the weeks; Leigh put too much into last week and they look spent last night. Ipape, Amone and Mulhern were shattered after 15 minutes.

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