Well dodged. I will word it again then...

Again - all you have said is that you want fresh ideas and not someone from the wigan bubble. I've just read through your posts again and aside from "underwhelming" "wigan bubble" and "I want fresh ideas" you haven't given a reason why a successful assistant coach shouldn't be given a chance at the job.

So I'll ask one final time and will word it differently again because you're clearly having issues. Think about it slowly........

FORGET THAT HE IS FROM WIGAN!!!!
FORGET THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE AN AUSTRALIAN ACCENT!!!!

If you see his CV showing 11 years coaching (including at International level), 11 years of winning things (and being the most decorated head coach at the best academy in the world) and receive positive reviews about him from pretty much everyone you speak to. Why would you not give him the job?

I kind of like the idea of us being an unknown quantity. We all know how Wane can motivate & inspire, and I've no reason to think that at least MP & SOL can't carry this on with his guidance. This coupled with no pressure to immediately go out and be world beaters could lead to us having a real good go as soon as next season IMO.

I have no expectations, but I have an inside hope that we'll actually do something with a level of entertainment better than the zero that we've endured this season.

I am in the camp of being farily happy with the coaching set up and whilst i get Andys points, i respecfully disagree with him. Not a fundamental disagreement, more a casual one.

So im probably on your side of the fence regarding the appointments.

That said. honestkly mate, you are like a dog with a bone here



Calm down honestly

You're right, but I'm sick of people bad mouthing the club with no real substance. As Jukesays says - these are the people that usually shout loudest and so everyone believes them that the club is a show.

I'm far from a happy clapper and have many issues with how things are done, but to slag the coach off before he's done anything as an "underwhelming" appointment when he has the experience he has just pushes my buttons. Possibly more than it should do, but there you go.

You've characterised my reasons for being underwhelmed entirely on me hating IL and KR - which simply isn't true. You've based your entire premise over the last god knows how many pages on a lie. I hate to break this to you given your stance (based on a lie), but people can form opinions based on the individual merits or otherwise of particular actions. You seem to be having trouble with that.

I mentioned you hating IL and KR once based on your comments after the fans forum when you accused them of lying (myself being one of those fans treated like a mug) and multiple posts in which you've slagged them off. I have simply asked you for reasons (and had done multiple times prior to me mentioning IL and KR) why you are underwhelmed about a successful assistant coach being promoted to head coach but you haven't provided any (other than wanting a pie in the sky appointment) so I'll presume you don't actually have any other than the usual crap that we normally see from people that won't give the club any credit for anything whatsoever but are quick to jump on them should something go wrong.

As someone on the other site said: [i"6 out of 7 grand final wins with the academy, fixed our defence on his return as assistant, has relevant qualifications.

People would be foaming at the mouth if it was announced that a Aussie assistant who was responsible for a clubs brilliant defence and when coaching the reserves won 6 out of 7 finals was coming on board.

Give the guy a chance."[/i

See you've done it again - think I hate IL and KR based on one particular issue, then followed it up with a generalisation that because I have a difference of opinion on the appointment, I "won't give the club any credit for anything". No wonder you've been struggling with someone having an alternative point of view when you put people into a particular camp on so little evidence. Let's face it, no mater what my reasons you put me in the "hate IL/KR", "won't give the club any credit for anything" team because my opinion on this is different from yours.

And you've avoided answering the question again and come up with more . (the swear filter will get me here but there you go)

I can't help you if you have a problem with me having a different view from you. Others disagree with me, stated so and why, but none have felt the need to lie about me hating individuals at the club or not giving the club credit for anything. They didn't feel the need to make things up because we had differing opinions.

Any idea what happened with Peet at Sale? He was barely there long enough to have a serious impact.

I’m not fully convinced either being totally honest but I fully agree, there has to be boundaries and limitations both ways

It’s not really euphoric but I see your point. That team (bar Briers) isn’t who I’d have chosen to be brutally honest, you’re description re disappointed fans is fairly accurate and I’d be an outright liar if I didn’t say I was a little disappointed we hadn’t gone for more experience.

That being said this coaching team, whether it’s who we’d chosen or not, whether we’re disappointed or euphoric deserves our full backing and support. Ultimately we don’t have a crystal ball, would a proven coach have worked? There’s a chance, and a good one at that, it wouldn’t. Will this work? I’d say there’s about that same chance.

You may be right with your last comment, as disingenuous as it was intended to be. But if this is who we have gone for, and it works, it’s an absolute master stroke from IFL and KR. And even you would have to admit it.