When I play rugby at the weekend, I think I might roll the ball behind the defensive line, chase it, then kick it, score the try, and claim it is a drop kick.

Not sure anyone is suggesting that my friend. That would clearly be a knock on. Try it anyway. See how you get on fella. And get yourself down to the local debating team immediately. You'd be a shoe-in

Just like Mcguire's, in effect thats exactly what he did, I just exaggerated it to prove a point

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IMO it was a consequence of dropping the ball. My question is, would you have the same argument if say...Kirke, Ablett etc: did the same thing? I think you're only questioning it because it was McGuire, and it's more likely he meant to drop kick the ball hence back up your claim.

p.s I still think it was a knock on.

I have E mailed RFL expressing my puzzlement at Stuart Cummings interpretation and asking for a detailed explanation of it. I have also asked for a detailed public explanation to be made as this needs to be cleared up so that all levels of the game know the rul;es of the game as understood by the RFL officials

he attempted the kick to cover up a knock-on, any player would have done the same but its still a knock-on

cant see what all the fuss is about

So a player loses control of the ball it goes forward and hits the ground. The player strikes at the ball with his foot. How high does the ball have to bounce before you give a knock on? or how long do you wait?

Woah! What, less obsessed than checking up how many posts someone has done?

Wait, you haven't got men watching my house have you?

If this intrusion is in reference to my suggestion you'd be cack in a debating team I apologise. You'd be awesome in one. In wigan

I think the difference here is that McGuire knocked on realised and tried to kick it to make it look like he was kicking as Tomkins grabs his arms he was probably going to grubber it through Tomkins gets him and he knocks on and still kicks it and tries to con the referee (like anyone would not taking any moral highground here). The fact is that anywhere else on the pitch if that was checked would also not be given as he knocked on trying to kick due to Tomkins doing his job. Its a massive grey area at the minute but I think a little sense has to be applied. If he had done it 20 metres out then fair enough he could claim he was going for a drop goal and the try should have been given but when hes 5 metres out and it would have taken a miracle to get a drop goal from the angle he was at then its clear that was never his intention and there should be no try given.

Dont forget Sam was cheating and should have been penalised for making a tackle! Leave them to it with Cas and Saints. Clearly we are getting everything our way this season. You only have to look at the penalty counts in games and the number of bans given out whilst identical offences are not charged to see its clear the RFL are in our back pockets. After all Super League needs a strong Wigan

Wow no need to be so touchy, was only joking my friend. You are obsessed with Wigan though, as your profile proves, I dont blame you to be honest, after all we are the most decorative, successful club in the world.