I cannot beleive this is even being discussed!!!!!!!!!

why not go the whole way and get Tommy Martyn in as a first team coach for Sam??

If you think this is bad, we have a thread asking if we should sign terry newton

Take all the hatred of the guy away and ask the question would he be an improvment on what we have and to me the answear is yes but it's a risk pairing him up with Gleeson again at a club where he's detested by the fans.

He'd have to be about 4/5th choice at best at the moment.

And for that reason - NO!!!

Stopped reading at that point, it would be clear to me the rest would be a waste of my time.

It does not matter if he is an improvement on what we currently have, wht does matter is, is he the best half available at the moment, the answer is categorically NO.

Who do we know for sure is available though?

To my knowledge it's only confirmed as Fien and Long.

Who's better out of that pair?

Close call imo.

and which one doesn't count on the quota spot (which is reduced next year)

Don't you be trying to palm your cast offs on us

Agree though.

Going away from Long though i've said my order of priority would be-

1-Myler
2-Dobson
3Long/Fien

The first 2 would be looking long term to form a hlafback partnership with Tomkins whereas Fien/Long would be a stop gap signing but both are classy players.

We maybe do not but i sure would hope that IL does. What we do know is Orford and Fein appear to be availble both of who i would have ahead of Long.

I guess time will tell, if/when a new half is announced but if we do not have a 6 or 7 to partner Tomkins who is superior to Long i would be very disspointed.

and the cack handed frigger drops it allowing Leon Pryce a romp away score to win the game for Saints as Long runs around the pitch in St Bernards head, forgetting that he now plays for Wigan!

Perfect!