What he did was quite rightly wrong, which is why to set an example, I've downloaded it as my desk top to remind me how wrong it was for him to react in the way he did to those Wonderful Articulate Nice Kind Enthusiatic Really Sensible yorkshire men.

You probably weren't at the DW in October 2009 then? McGuire was booed every time he touched the ball. A year before the "Trip-gate" incident.

But, like you, I can't feel excited about players giving a bit back to the fans. They shouldn't, since they're paid to be there, but they do. It gets a verdict of "meh" from me.

In fairness, Tomkins gets more attention because he's a talent, but I think if he were being honest he would admit that he's fond of the odd wind-up. Personally I think it's quite funny, but I would imagine the booing owes much of it's existence to that side of the lad's character. As I'm sure you know really.

far to many people are calling for his head and a ban simply because it was on the bbc infront of more fans bla bla bla..... a high tackle or a dirty shot wouldnt be punished more severly simply because it was infront of more fans so why should this? The RFL should do nothing but be consistent, which if similar incidents are anything to go by would mean a slap on the wrist and a fine, which no one can have any argument with.

If like us you watched Sam week in and week out, you would be as angry as us if you saw all the high shots and late tackles he takes...

I don't remember that, but I'm not saying it didn't happen. Maybe we're talking about players getting booed because they were simply being played off the park? That wouldn't surprise me, given the good hidings the Aussies have recently given our national sides, and if that's what we're referring to, that also is a different thing. However, if McGuire was being singled out when so many others around him were crap as well, it was bang out of order.

I agree that this is not the major incident it's being made out to be. Players are only human and feel immense pressure in big games, etc.

But Sam was stupid to react the way he did. It's good to see him get fined by the club. If the RFL also want to impose a penalty, then fair enough - I just hope it's consistent with those other case's we've mentioned.

RFL are listing disciplinaries at the moment: www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary

RFL are listing disciplinaries at the moment: www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary

Just because the England game was played at Leeds doesn't mean it was only Leeds supporters that were booing him - he is disliked by a lot of supporters at other clubs. A player with all that talent, natural speed and agility should be loved by everyone at international level but is down to him to earn the respect of England supporters not to just expect it. This is a very good first step and I applaud him for taking it and look forward to seeing him in an England shirt in the four nations.

Like all the other England players you mean?

I don't expect everyone to love him, but the fact that he's wearing an England shirt should at least mean he doesn't get booed.

I don't think it does - the fact is (whether you believe it or not as a Wigan supporter) he is renowned for being a cheat and for showing a lack of respect to the other team's supporters. Why should we just forget that because he pulls on an England shirt. However, this apology is a good, genuine first step imo.

I agree.

To achieve what you're hoping for, however, requires fans of RL in this country to be able to check their club agendas at the gate for internationals. They don't though. Tomkins isn't the first to get the treatment while on international duty and he won't be the last. The "home" crowd has picked at least one England/GB player to get stuck into at almost every test match I've been to, be it at Leeds, Wigan, Hudds, Hull or wherever.

I'll be off down to Wembley again in November hoping for it to be different, but it's more hope than expectation.

and so the next time a player is offside or throws a forward pass we should boo them when they play internationally because [iobviously[/i theyre cheating?

also i still dont understand why sam is a "cheat". yes, hes a little git but i wouldnt say he was a cheat.

Unlike Sinfield and McGuire.

Yes, all infringements while jumping for a high kick are sent to the disciplinary. Aren't they? They're not? Oh.

I really wouldn't like to imagine what you'd be like if you'd lost!