Not to mention a rather good organising hooker who we are missing a lot.

yeah ive just remembered that

Yep just spoke to someone at the game and all be it I don't like using refs as excuses, this one has got no excuse for the error he made. Should have been our ball on their 20 and instead, even though the ball bounced out on the full 1.5m, touch judge said it didn't and gave head and feed to the men in which they scored. Although it was the touch judge's call, how Bentham hasn't had the balls to over rule it is another joke.

we are there or there abouts due to playing the lower teams. this 'more to come from this team' needs to happen now and I cannot see it as we dont have the personnel currently. We are over half the way through the season. cant see it., hope I am wrong.

PRODUCE IT THEN!

we had bombed 3 trys by then, Wigan have only themselves to blame

not being funny ere but wouldnt really class salford as being poor at the moment they recently beat catalan wakefield and now us , cas have been much the same just recently , do agree with the exiles game needs to be played on a weekend of its own or midweek at least both wigan & wire had the majority of players involved in this game so thats possibly half of each team missing game training all week etc etc

Its the RFL









Wouldn't trust them to cook dinner.

How did the TJ not see a ball that hit the advertising boards on the full? FFS

The fact of it is too many distractions have cost us this season Gleeson leaving, Maguire leaving, Fieldens injury, Richards missing the start of the season and now a lack of an announcement over the New Coach setup. The last one in particular is fast becoming a disgrace its clear to anyone with eyes that its affecting performances Hoffman in particular its been speculated for weeks now an announcement was due yet it has yet to arrive Friday perhaps has affected us today but there was no excuse for throwing away a 22-4 lead with 3 bombed tries two of which were certainties it didn't affect Tommy by all accounts, at best this season we are looking at winning or getting to the Cup Final, Super League at this stage is too big an ask based on current performances with seemingly a lack of killer instinct but of course winning the Cup means beating Warrington which is looking less likely by the game we rely too heavily on Sam & our pack.

we're still in the driving seat

I would like to think this will spur us on next Friday.

All eyes on Odsal now. The miracle is complete... Roby plays.

Let's remain positive! A point gained on our closest rivals despite playing away at Cas. Warrington losing at home to Salford and Huddersfield losing to Wakefield are greater shocks.

If Saints lose to Bradford it will be a point gained on everyone.



Yes we should have won - no coincidence that Pat and Lockers made crucial errors that would have sealed the game for Wigan. But it may well have come down to the absence of a 4th prop which was causing the lack of go forward and which then led to more pressure on our tiring defence, handling errors etc.



When Fielden, Coley and Hock return - hopefully all fairly soon, the platform established by our much more solid pack will start to bear fruit, just in time for the CC Q/F!

Just had a Cas fan trying to tell us he drop kicked it out on the full and that's allowed!



WTF! It sounds that daft I'm thinking I dreamt it!

how is lenagan not announcing to the public who will be next years coach affecting performances???? when madge announced to the players he was going they all said they were desperate for him to go out on a high, so i think your way off with that comment

According to the coach we didn't perform. No excuses.

I expect they will get a kick up the backside this week then

How anyone can say the Exiles game had no bearing on todays results wants to go for a brain scan.



We ran out of juice in the last quarter because of backing up from Friday and the weather conditions.



Is it a coincidence that Wire and Hudds lost having loads of players involved on Friday.



The Exiles game should be given a weekend of it's own.

Michael Maguire needs his head tested. You heard it here first.





How many did we have 'backing up'?





Agree 100% and truly think it will happen.

Was the kick hard to win the game for cas that they missed?



Just seen they missed 4 convs

Oh c'mon. He put his hand up to play, but the England docs wouldn't allow it.

4, with two of our best players missing out completely.

We had 5-



Lockers

McIlorum

J Tomkins

Richards

Leuluai



Still no excuse though. Missed chances in the 2nd half and a huge drop in intensity cost us that game. It's not the first time it's happened this year either and we had no exiles game excuse ready then.

I can't remember ever arguing against that, 22-4 at half time, but when those decisions go like that its frustrating. Also apparently Goulding held up another one which was given.