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Thrown away comfortable leads at Widnes and Hull KR.
Total surrender at Castelford.
Scraped 1 away win all season at a team I could beat on my own.
Whimpering out of the cup to a team beaten 60-0 two weeks earlier.
2nd biggest defeat in SL history today.
Weekly bull in the press from SW.

The club is going backwards at pace, thank f*** Sam is coming back next year! icon_neutral.gif

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Quote: Orrell Lad "Thrown away comfortable leads at Widnes and Hull KR.
Total surrender at Castelford.
Scraped 1 away win all season at a team I could beat on my own.
Whimpering out of the cup to a team beaten 60-0 two weeks earlier.
2nd biggest defeat in SL history today.
Weekly bull in the press from SW.

The club is going backwards at pace, thank f*** Sam is coming back next year!

You forgot to mention the pathetic showing at Salford.

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Completely predictable away performance, pathetic doesn't even come close to describing it.

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Wane needs to go and take some of the sh*te with him, absolutely pathetic poor performance, if you could call it a performance

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Quote: apollosghost "Completely predictable away performance, pathetic doesn't even come close to describing it.'"


Totaly inept out muscled out enthused no doubt Rogues will spout how gutted the team looked at the end as a defence as per last week but we're not good enough and it's time for a change....

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Reading this thread it seems Wane has lost the fans. Perhaps the last couple of performances indicate that he is losing the dressing room as well?

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Expect a Wane quote along the lines of:
"That just wasn't a Wigan team performance and I'm absolutely gutted for all those fans that spent their hard earned cash traveling over there to watch us get beat,but they (Catalans) certainly played the referee better than us and reaped the rewards off the back of such a lopsided penalty count and when you take this into consideration a 42 point defeat could have quite easily have been reversed

You couldn't make this quote up,But I'd bet that Wane could

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Can we get back to discussing how gash we were tonight please.

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We were gash, and Cats played to the potential they always have, but seldom do...

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Men against boys , what a strange season , these away performances are now beyond a joke

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Sometimes you've just got to sit back and applaud the opposition and this is one of those games. Cats were fantastic in attack and scored some great tries.
Everything they did came off and when that happens teams get blown away, it happens to most teams at some point in the season. Hats off to them

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What's worrying for me is Wane's ideas to correct poor performances.
All he seems to do is rotate Hampshire and Bowen, neither get back into the team on merit, but because the other has played poorly. FWIW I feel sorry for these two who are the two who seem to be targeted, not the likes of Sarg (for example) who has played as poorly as anyone in defence recently).

I don't think some of the lads are managed effectively and at times playing them in different positions is detrimental to their career, with this their not having a fair run in their chosen position.

For example;
Gelling was signed as a centre. Yet was played on the wing and second row before a run in the centres, with this he only played sporadically due to not being able to play on a duel, the dropped for poor performances, I don't know how he was meant to step up and do a good job under such circumstances.

Hughes was (and still is a SR) came through as a SR then turned into a centre. Hansen is injured, so instead of giving Hughes game time in the centres (a position he's new to) he's moved back into the pack, Thornley steps into the centres and Hughes is ultimately dropped for HH when he returns. All in all Hughes development is mismanaged.

Hampshire, always a 6, now played as a 1 in SL, dropped for poor performances in a position he's learning in the big league when he was never a 1.

Powell, always a HB, not rotated as a 9 or a 7 (depending on what day it is) not having a good run in his chosen position.

Williams is in exactly the same situation as Powell.

All of the above are or have been mismanaged, all of the above are young lads with bags of talent who, under the right management could become world-beaters in their chosen positions.

Right now we look all over the place in our attack, and why wouldn't we? We have constant changes in our 1, 6/7 and 9. Personally I don't know how Wane expected Bowen to do well in one of the toughest fixtures of the season after not playing for 9 games.

All this is down to the management, yet the management constantly berates and flogs the players; I know I'd soon get sick of that treatment without the boss taking any responsibility, I also know I'd feel angered to be hammered for errors while the coach constantly plays me in the wrong position.

I'm not saying SW can't turn this around, but surely he has to be held responsible for current form, and our away form in particular is abysmal.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "What's worrying for me is Wane's ideas to correct poor performances.
All he seems to do is rotate Hampshire and Bowen, neither get back into the team on merit, but because the other has played poorly. FWIW I feel sorry for these two who are the two who seem to be targeted, not the likes of Sarg (for example) who has played as poorly as anyone in defence recently).

I don't think some of the lads are managed effectively and at times playing them in different positions is detrimental to their career, with this their not having a fair run in their chosen position.

For example;
Gelling was signed as a centre. Yet was played on the wing and second row before a run in the centres, with this he only played sporadically due to not being able to play on a duel, the dropped for poor performances, I don't know how he was meant to step up and do a good job under such circumstances.

Hughes was (and still is a SR) came through as a SR then turned into a centre. Hansen is injured, so instead of giving Hughes game time in the centres (a position he's new to) he's moved back into the pack, Thornley steps into the centres and Hughes is ultimately dropped for HH when he returns. All in all Hughes development is mismanaged.

Hampshire, always a 6, now played as a 1 in SL, dropped for poor performances in a position he's learning in the big league when he was never a 1.

Powell, always a HB, not rotated as a 9 or a 7 (depending on what day it is) not having a good run in his chosen position.

Williams is in exactly the same situation as Powell.

All of the above are or have been mismanaged, all of the above are young lads with bags of talent who, under the right management could become world-beaters in their chosen positions.

Right now we look all over the place in our attack, and why wouldn't we? We have constant changes in our 1, 6/7 and 9. Personally I don't know how Wane expected Bowen to do well in one of the toughest fixtures of the season after not playing for 9 games.

All this is down to the management, yet the management constantly berates and flogs the players; I know I'd soon get sick of that treatment without the boss taking any responsibility, I also know I'd feel angered to be hammered for errors while the coach constantly plays me in the wrong position.

I'm not saying SW can't turn this around, but surely he has to be held responsible for current form, and our away form in particular is abysmal.'"



Your spot on with what you have wrote!

Going back to what you say about our 1/6/7/9.... i still cant understand why he started powell at 6, then took him off after 15 minutes to bring williams on?

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Quote: wiganstripleL "Your spot on with what you have wrote!

Going back to what you say about our 1/6/7/9.... i still cant understand why he started powell at 6, then took him off after 15 minutes to bring williams on?'"


Could be a number of reasons; didn't think we were going well, wanted an element of surprise or shear panic. Hard to say.

I do believe we have the players to be very good, Wane needs to sort it out or be shown the door.

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I think on paper and when everyone is fit we have the strongest squad in the league... wane isnt getting the best out them...especially away from home. Something is wrong somewhere when it comes to away games.... every man and his dog can see it...why cant wane?

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