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Wilkin is nowhere near the player that Lockers is and anyone who tries to make an argument that he is, as obviously got the rugby intelligence of my 2 year old.
I agree with Wigg'n. Lockers as been used in a different role this season to facilitate Finch, which is not a bad thing. He is still having an excellent season and is in my opinion in the top four players in SL.
If I was voting I couldnt see past Sam Tomkins though. Super League has been waiting for so long to get a player like Tomkins. Just hope union and the NRL keep their hands off. Roby is a strong contender though and is another excellent player.

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Quote: Pieman "that makes no sense...'"


So to clarify - you now agree that my post to which you replied "no he hasn't" was indeed factual and what you meant to say was: "yes he has".

Good good.

Then again, he's not a Wigan player so it can't possibly be true that he has been as hard working in defence whilst monumentally more effective in attack and far more disciplined. I can see your point now.

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Quote: gunit2k9 "Lockers as been . . . . in the top four players in SL.'"


I can see that this isn't the place for reasonable debate.

He might just sneak into the top 4 players at Wigan for 2011. As for top 4 in SL? Seriously.

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Quote: FearTheVee "So to clarify - you now agree that my post to which you replied "no he hasn't" was indeed factual and what you meant to say was

Are you reading something else? I didnt agree just said you post made no sense.....He hasnt been more effective at all if you read my posts and the stats I said.

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First names on a Super League dream team or even a England team.... bet its not Wilkin

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Quote: Pieman "Are you reading something else? I didnt agree just said you post made no sense.....He hasnt been more effective at all if you read my posts and the stats I said.'"


Wow. Just wow.

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Quote: FearTheVee "Wow. Just wow.'"


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Quote: Pieman "

Is that your reading teacher patting you on the head after you learned what "per game" meant?

Congrats.

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Quote: gunit2k9 "First names on a Super League dream team or even a England team.... bet its not Wilkin'"


But it isn't Lockers either, is it?

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Quote: FearTheVee "Is that your reading teacher patting you on the head after you learned what "per game" meant?

Congrats.'"


icon_lol.gif you do realise Lockers has been injured in quite a few games this year and not played all the games. I think the stat you are looking for is minutes played. Dear lord icon_iamwithstupid.gif

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Bet you Lockers is one of them, along with Sam and Roby

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Quote: Pieman "icon_lol.gif you do realise Lockers has been injured in quite a few games this year and not played all the games. I think the stat you are looking for is minutes played. Dear lord
I do realise that, he's played in 22 SL games to Wilkin's 19, hence my use of "per game". The only reasonable way of comparing, unless you use the Pieman "just count everything up regardless of games played" approach. Which is a little used method with limited merit, but you seem to like it so you go for it sunshine.

If you would you like to go through the meaning of "per game" again, let me know.

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Quote: FearTheVee "I do realise that, he's played in 22 SL games to Wilkin's 19, hence my use of "per game". The only reasonable way of comparing, unless you use the Pieman "just count everything up regardless of games played" approach. Which is a little used method with limited merit, but you seem to like it so you go for it sunshine.

If you would you like to go through the meaning of "per game" again, let me know.'"


So if you realise that why do you keep ignoring it. Minutes played please....to back up your stats

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FTV,
Do you honestly believe that Wilkin is a better player than O'Loughlin?

I'm only asking because the likes of Nathan Brown has openly stated that he believes that O'Loughlin is the best player in this country and doesn't get the accolades he deserves.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "FTV,
Do you honestly believe that Wilkin is a better player than O'Loughlin? '"


I think Jon Wilkin has had a better 2011 so far than SOL - that is the point I'm making. Whether that is because SOL is being held back within Wigan's current system is another question.

The suggestion of SOL for MoS this season is just daft, he's not even close to the reckoning. That is the only reason I made the comparison: we're talking about the 2011 MoS.

p.s. you know my views on SOL - he's a cracking player.

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