I think you are a force if you can get your first 17 on the paddock. If injuries bite again you will be an average team.

I agree the system is farcical, repeat offenders are not treated as such yet accidental incidents warrant a reprimand. Smithies tackle on Welsby at the DW is another prime example.

At that time your players were arguing,you was out of sorts you had players banned so yes you was shot at that time not now though.
Now that its sorted you are back to your greatest team of all time standard.

You would not come on here if you had lost.

Utterly dominant from us last night. Taking our foot off the gas for the last 20 was disappointing though as we could’ve scored 50.

Welsby was outstanding. I love it how he gives it to the Wigan fans. For a Wigan lad and a Wigan fan as a kid he absolutely despises them now and it’s great to see. Same with Makinson in many ways. Not sure what that sex offender song from the Wigan fans was all about. They give him loads and he gives it back.

I’m really pleased that we seem to (in Wellens words) have simplified our game and gone back to basics. We must be the easiest team to coach with the intensity we play at and the structures we have. The last two weeks we have looked back to our best.

I’ve said before that Woolfs team didn’t need much tweaking yet Wellens seemed set on putting his own stamp on the team and it wasn’t working earlier in the season although to be fair we had injuries and suspensions then.

Huge game for Wigan next week. Massive.

Thanks for the update on all things St Helens.

Shouldn't you be posting all that on a Saints forum? For a man who claims to have no ulterior motives by posting on here, you ain't half transparent.

I think you’d be better posting on the St Helens board.

We are enthralled to read that Welsby despises Wigan fans. Kind of comment you’d expect from a 15 year old

Which Wigan fan pis$ed in your cornflakes sweet heart

To be honest Stu you did say you wouldnt come back on win or lose,nice to see you just cant keep away

Dominant after the break but our spirit seemed to be broke by some incredible first half calls. Saints have always been the team to beat but we’ll see how we stand come the end of the season. The highs and lows of the season are in full force but I’d love nothing better than for other sides to start writing this Wigan team off. We don’t bang on about player absences like other clubs, so it’s never taken in to account during the coverage but once we’re more towards full strength in the forwards and we can lay a better platform for the backs we have, I’m confident we’ll trouble teams.

It is a very long season.

I meant directly after the game when emotions are running high. I’ve waited 24 hours to post. I’m also posting on a Wigan v Saints discussion thread so I’ve hardly derailed a thread.

I’ve tried to give my opinion on Wigan before and have been told metaphorically to shove it hence posting comments about my own team.

I thought the idea of discussion forums was to hear the opinions of other fans? I welcome Rogues Gallery posting on Red Vee even if by his own admission he is occasionally on the wind up.

I’ve a lot of respect for Wigan. One of my best mates is professionally involved there however I’ve got to be honest those sex offender songs last night and the behaviour of some Wigan fans has got me annoyed. Hence my venom in my last post.

I’ll gladly walk away if people don’t want to discuss RL with non-Wigan fans. Not a problem

Give over. The same referee that hammered us at home to Leeds is now pro-Saints and anti Wigan? You were never going to win that last night. Quite how you hung on in that first half was a surprise.

You scored a beautifully well-worked try and then it was only a slip from Welsby and a last minute consolation try that was your other points. We were dominant as the stats show. Walmsley was only 40m from making as many metres as your entire pack.

I’ve no doubt you’ll be stronger with a fully fit team but no ref would have changed the result of that game last night.

Welsby was a bully at school Stu until he met his match. He can talk the talk but can he walk the walk? I suggest he may want to rein it in if he wants to enjoy his leisure time in Wigan. Tommy doesn’t dislike Wigan and he never has, you are making it up!

Unlike Saints fans and the Saints club (who constantly moan about him) I’m just judging Kendall on last night and he was appalling in that first half. We were the masters of our own downfall early doors, with silly mistakes and we paid the price but we got a foothold and started to trouble Saints but some of the calls were simply shambolic. The scoreline at half time was deflating and ruled us out of the contest but I saw enough in that 40 minutes to stay really positive. All the momentum was with Saints going in to the game and we could’ve folded early doors but as it was, we stuck right in there and every time we got momentum and looked like gaining some sort of defensive edge, we got pinned. That penalty on Ellis was a case in point and then Paasi should’ve been carded but wasn’t and he went on to have a cracking game.

You know me, I’ve never wrote Saints off. I’ve always said your favourites but I have said that week to week intensity has probably gone and I stick by that. By the same token, I ain’t writing us off either. If we can get our act together in the forwards, our backs will trouble anyone. It was just flashes last night but clearly we have the pace to get at you and we’ll have a say yet.

A decent effort from your lads and the team to beat without question.
Welsby is decent player but every game makes mistakes. I like maverick but not a smart arris. His time will come.
Next week is huge for you too unless you think Hull is a walkover. I think you’ll win but if you turn up just expecting a win you never know. Is the CC now a sideshow? Maybe it is.
Enjoy the win but say take Lomax out your starting 13 would you still be as bullish?
Interesting times.

A decent effort from your lads and the team to beat without question.
Welsby is decent player but every game makes mistakes. I like maverick but not a smart arris. His time will come.
Next week is huge for you too unless you think Hull is a walkover. I think you’ll win but if you turn up just expecting a win you never know. Is the CC now a sideshow? Maybe it is.
Enjoy the win but say take Lomax out your starting 13 would you still be as bullish?
Interesting times.