Haha I’m glad it entertains you.

In truth redvee is no different to here really. On both forums there’s some really good posters, some really bad ones, some weirdos, some bias, some impartiality and some attention seeking idiots. I’m sure this forum has given Saints fans reason for a chuckle in the past and vice verca, that comes with the territory. I use redvee to share opinions and feelings on all things Saints and there’s some good discussions on there but also our fair share of fools.

I’ve always spoken honestly and say things as I see it. Some people don’t like that but I’m older and wiser now and don’t waste any time worrying about it. I don’t intend hanging round here much because eventually someone will want to pick an argument unfortunately.

Give over! I know you're far from being one of the worst on there but to suggest it's like an open forum is utterly ridiculous. Your page on here is dead because your fans couldn't stand being 'trolled' (read: someone posting an opinion that doesn't fit the Saints mantra) and so retreated to a pretty much closed shop so you could stroke each other off (metaphorically speaking of course.). I've said in the past that any opposition fan wandering on to Redvee is akin to the pub scene in American Werewolf in London!

That said, I'd much rather you joined in the wider rugby community. FearTheVee and others have been on occasionally and has contributed some reasonable opinions and it would be good to see yourself and others. Gives us someone to argue with, if nothing else.

I know what your saying and you shouldn't be hounded for offering a different opinion but I genuinely don't think it's the same on RedVee as it is on an open forum. There are too few dissenting voices for that and a mob mentality ensues. I read it whenever there's something of interest (derby week or the recent cup final for example) and, as an occasional user, it's quite plain to see. I remember last time I was reading it Ralph Fridge appeared to be a voice of reason. I went on this week and he seems to have grown an extra finger and got a turned up nose, even going as far as asking for Rogues to be banned for expressing a view widely held by the greater rugby community. It seems to be "a local forum for local people" (sic) these days.

I mean, do you seriously think 'I f*cking hate Wigan' is the acceptable face of rugby league, let alone welcoming?

I think the problem is we’ve had a lot of bad trolls in the past and so now when any opposition fan turns up they’re met with suspicion straight away haha. Like I said if people just want to discuss rugby like a grown up then it shouldn’t matter who they support.

Not sure what the last paragraph refers to in all honesty. Somebody’s signature I’m guessing?

And you know I don't take any notice, I just share my opinions and knowledge (sometimes) Some people may agree some don't, that's life but what I don't do is insult people.

You don’t. You go on the wind up constantly. You are the definition of troll. Look at the number of posts you make on here compared to redvee. That tells you everything.

Widnes fan here who misses the SL greatly. To this end I've taken in a few live games down at the HJ and also the vape dome this season (they are both reasonably local to me) I have enjoyed the HJ experience and I must say that the Wire fans have been quite welcoming and jovial and are more than tolerant of my occasional uncontrollable outbursts of anti Warrington banter. Indeed I've become friendly with a few of them. However I found it just the opposite at Saints and found the whole experience much less friendly. Now I know there's good and bad in all sets of support but there is something about Saints from the top (as we've seen this last week) down to the grass roots which reeks of arrogance and self importance. It would appear that the Redvee thing backs this up!

I go on there occasionally and have a read.
And a little bit like our other forum but about 10x worse I find Redvee very insular and as others have said a "Mob Mentality".
Basically anyone from another club who comments is immediately treated as a "Troll" and whilst I do think that Rogues puts some Tongue in Cheek comments on there I very rarely see anything that is OTT, whilst in comparison some of the abuse he receives is ridiculous relative to the posts he's made.
It's almost like people just see a Username and immediately take a Reactionary Polar opposite stance and go on the attack and in a lot of instance get very personal.

The other site also doesn't get many opposition fans and as such doesn't get contributions from outside of Wigan as much as here (But it doesn't need them as they do more than a good enough job of criticising the Club, management and certain players without other fans needing to) . IMO this creates a Very insular attitude with people only posting in the main whatever gets them the most Back Slaps.

I do Miss the days when the traffic on here was greater, the number of contributors was greater and as importantly the contributions from a variety of fans from other clubs was greater.
Whilst not always everything may be want you want to hear the more diversified opinions and points of view given the greater level of debate.

People often talk on other boards about being banned off here, having posts deleted etc. and whilst not obviously knowing if that is true I would argue that caution should be taken when restricting differing points of view and I personally wouldn't want people being banned/posts deleted just because the opinions didn't fit with what we as Wigan fans may want to hear.

But also as the saying goes "Pot calling Kettle" the ones who cry about being banned/having posts removed also tend to be the ones wanting other peoples views deleted etc. when their views don't align with the Status Quo.

Anyway - Good to have you back - Haven't seen you over here since about the time I made the "Missing - 1 x Yellow Giraffe post about 2years ago".

Good post, can’t disagree with much of that at all. With regards to redvee I agree people from other clubs do get a hard time but in mitigation I think that’s because we’ve had so many idiots coming on purely to wind folk up in the past. Incidentally we’ve had about 50 new users from the Warrington area in the last fortnight haha.

I do vaguely remember that post of yours; I must have shown great restraint and ignored it at the time!

Just to put all the lies and misinformation to bed and stop yet another thread derailing, the only reason people are banned / warned / have posts deleted from this forum is because they breach the AUP. If you don't know it, it's in the help drop down menu at the top of this page.

I've had a look and in the last 4 - 5 years, ONE user has been banned from this board. Hardly the actions of the Third Reich.

Those that whinge and bellyache about the mod process (which is against the AUP) and invoke Godwins Law are the people who continually break the AUP they signed up to when joining the site.

After clearing all that up can we please get the thread back on-track, laughing at Stains choking in another big game, thanks.

If anyone wants to discuss the moderating process, either message one of the mods direct or contact site admin.

Grown men using the term “Stains” never fails to make me cringe.

Anyway, back on topic. I’m sure you’ll all be enjoying the fact that we lost at Wembley but anyone prematurely writing us off for Old Trafford may end up looking a tad silly.

Let's hope we don't have a player sent off in the first two minutes. You may stand a chance.

Haha yes because every team to ever have a player sent off has gone on to lose the game haven’t they? I recall listing 6 or 7 examples in the 2 seasons prior to 2014 where teams had men sent off and still won.

You also conveniently forgot that you were beaten by a team with a prop at centre, a centre on the wing, a 2nd rower and a full back in the halves, a winger at full back......